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[Game of Thrones] Season 8

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Sajan, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. GIGO

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    Maybe this is what you're looking for but couldn't search because that op's title error?
    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/john-snow-the-series.316133/
     
  2. Deckard

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    Wow! Thanks, @GIGO. I'll part Martin's blog post over there and give it a bump. Much appreciated. :cool:
     
  3. Commodore

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  4. clos4life

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    So, if true, gaps between books. 2 years, 2 years, 5 years, 6 years, 15+ years. How many until the last book, 30 years?

    At this rate, even if TWOT is actually published, we'll never see Martin live long enough to finish the series. We'll just get endless GOT content at HBO.
     
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    I don't know what I want to do with this anymore. I read all the prior books, watched the full series, so I got really invested. But it's been soooooo long now. I'm not sure I can bring myself to care about this anymore. Especially knowing that the last books (assuming the 7th IS the last book) will almost certainly not be finished in GRRM's lifetime.

    I guess when the book comes out I'll decide if I want to bother.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    I was a freshman in college when I read Feast. Would read the occasional chapters released online for WoW wondering what would happen to Stannis and how he’d eff everyone up.

    Fast forward 15 or whatever years ..

    Life has changed immensely and I’m as close to recalling what it was like reading his books as much as what riding a bike was to me when I was reading them back then


    He ****ed his fans more than any writer in memory
     
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  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    This.

    and we all know how many unecessary story lines and characters he wasted time on, prolonging his never ending book saga
     
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  8. Space Ghost

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    The only thing worse than a Musk fanboi is a GOT fanboi who believed GRRM had the entire series planned out.
     
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  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    Nobody believes he has the entire series planned out, but it’s pretty stupid to create a million characters if you don’t even have some destination in mind (those characters remain lose ends and wasted time)

    GRRM told some folks he had the main points delineated. Apparently he told D&D…and I doubt they came up with their own ending. They just butchered already bad delivery
     
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    I think he wrote himself into a hole with all of the POVs in the last book. He also saw that fans hated the last seasons of the show and spiraled. The thing is I can buy everything that happened in the plot's broad strokes. I can't forgive how the TV show got there, though.
     
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  11. dobro1229

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    Apparently this is fake, and GRRM debunked it yesterday.

    What I think is safe to assume is that here in the next year or two, I assume that GRRM or his estate will likely do what George Lucas did and sell the rights to ASOIAF and hand pick a person or team to spearhead new projects including the books, and novels.

    GRRM is smart enough to know that if he is to pass, his work could be sold off and parsed out to studios and Hollywood, and his lifes work could get butchered. So I think that day is coming sooner or later. I don't know if the HBO deal he has would create barriers. I'm sure there is a license deal for the final season of HOTD, and the next two seasons of Dunk and Egg. Other than that, I think he probably has some flexibility to start the process of shopping out who he wants to spearhead ownership of his creative works.

    If he doesn't do that, I think he's doing himself a disservice because it's going to get made one way or another. Best to do that now. He's fought that for years, but at some point soon I think he'll finally bite the bullet. Feel bad for the guy though honestly.
     
  12. The Captain

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    I think GRRM has a handshake agreement with Joe Abercrombie to finish the series. Would be nice if they just did it now, rather than waiting for GRRM's death.
     
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    Yeah I think he should as well. In his interviews though you can tell there is personal pride and some resentment going on there which is understandable. George Lucas surely had/has that as well, and he's always been quite prickly about the subject of people taking over his life's work.

    But I think it would be good for him to do that now so the fans can really give him the honor and praise he deserves during that transition.

    I think the most important thing though will be to have like a Kevin Feige type that can ensure continuity and proper management of the ASOIAF projects moving forward across mediums. Cause I could see there being another rift down the line with whoever is writing novelizations clashing again with studios in TV and film that break continuity, character, and canon storyline.
     
  14. clos4life

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    No pity, he's chosen to swim in buckets of money instead of writing. Good for him, no hate there going for the money. However, no pity will be felt either, he chose this.
     
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    Is writers block, or writing yourself into a corner you cannot get out of a choice?? I'm asking in all sincerity there too. I really don't know if GRRM made the right decision or not to avoid a story with plot holes and abandoned character arcs just to finish or if he was at fault for not mapping out where he was going in the early writing process?

    But yeah he did make the choice to avoid finishing ASOIAF books and instead got busy making money as a producer on the shows, and "co-writing" companion books. So yeah he did kind of choose making money instead of just solely focusing on finishing ASOIAF, but not sure I blame him, and if it just happened.

    Also if he did finish the books and they had major holes in them, or they felt like a huge drop off in quality, he's probably better off not finishing them. Just like George Lucas is probably escaping the criticism for Star Wars 7,8,9 even though early drafts from Lucas were kind of the same story minus the "somehow Palpatine returned" bit which gets the most criticism.
     
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  16. clos4life

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    I don't blame anyone going for the money. Just won't feel sorry for them when they start listing the excuses. Actions speak louder than words, and his screamed "show me the money" Jerry McGuire style.
     
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  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    Definitely writers block—the cocaine, strippers, and wads of cash block his face from his notepad
     
  18. clos4life

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    People forget he only started writing the books because his TV writing prospects dried up and he couldn't land anything steady after Beauty and the Beast. Everything he ever wrote before that was short stories with the aim to be on TV, and editing books. Basically, it was over once HBO signed the checks.
     
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