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[Sina.com] JVG is frustrated because Yao lacks confidence

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bob718, Nov 21, 2004.

  1. Phreak3

    Phreak3 Member

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    I think maybe this is a legitimate grip. I mean especially with his psyche, it would have been better if he could have had this team all to himself for at least a season or two. All the other franchise players, duncan, garnett, shaq, etc.. they all were the de facto star on their teams while they were still developing. Yao should have had that chance too.. he would have probably developed differently than where he's at right now. But oh well.. nothing you can do about that.
     
  2. gotoloveit2

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    Either Yao did have the flu or there was some validity in this report, because Yao did look somewhat "disinterested" in the past few games. One needs to use both encouragement and discipline to nurture a good student. JVG definitely has the latter, not so sure of the former though.

    As far as getting the red flags as a form of encouragement, it might have been a common thing to do in the old communist China. :D
     
  3. jediknight94595

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    Man you oughta be Yao's coach!! :D

    Hitting a referee is usually a few games. :D

    Too bad hitting a coach is 1 season. :mad:
     
  4. codell

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    This is just ridiculous.
     
  5. jediknight94595

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    Its too bad Yao didn't serve in the army. He would not be such a wimpy p***y if he did. :D
     
  6. mogrod

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    I can see the whole "he is the man in China" thing. TMac was hurt and Yao had two of his best games. The team looked to him to carry them and he did just that. I had this thought last year as well, how if this was really Yao's team, then he would set out to carry the team on his back - ala Olympics. It was really Steve's team and Yao was playing as if he was the role player. Now, TMac comes in as one of the leagues top players and I think Yao is doing the same thing.

    I can see how Yao is getting frustrated when they lose when he does well, and vice versa. It has been interesting how that has worked out.

    Interesting how Yao is coming out about how uncomfortable he is with JVG's bashing and yelling. I sure hope JVG's methods don't backfire on this organization by either Yao deciding to play elsewhere or never having enough confidence because he is getting yelled at all the time.

    Maybe JVG is trying to push Yao's buttons until Yao decides he has had enough and stands up to him or uses the anger out on the court. Either way, it would increase respect level amongst his teammates. But, like I said, I just hope it doesn't backfire.
     
  7. Hippieloser

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    I'm not too worried about this. There's literally NO WAY the organization would ditch Yao because he couldn't get along with Van Gundy. It would be WITHOUT A DOUBT Van Gundy who got tossed.

    "Hi, Yao, we're ready to work out a new contract with you! We'll be giving you the max, of course. You're our franchise! Ready to sign?"

    "Ummm.... no. Actually, I don't want to play for Van Gundy. Despite all of my upbringing of respect for coaches and loyalty to my team, I just can't seem to make it work. He hurts my feelings." (Yeah RIGHT.)

    "Ss****, buddy, he's fired! In fact, we'll shoot him! Now, how 'bout signing that contract?"
     
  8. munco

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    I feel bad for Yao after reading the summaries. He seems like a confused kid. He obviously is huge physically and has a great deal of talent, but he definitely is not peforming as his skills should allow him to. Will Yao be able to adapt to Van Gundy or will Van Gundy adapt to Yao? Will one of them leave? It's still early in the year, but Yao's inconsistent play is troublesome. If he continues to play like this, who knows what will happen.

    On another note, I think Rudy's flag system was too easy A flag for the center if he grabs a rebound every 4 minutes. Assuming that's every 4 minutes of the game clock. 12 rebounds in 48 minutes is a great job. good, but not great.
     
  9. jediknight94595

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    Dude, this is from some Chinese newspaper. Dontcha think they just being a little dramatic??? Cmon, you think Yao gives a sh** what Van Grumpy says in the locker room??? He's got a million dollars. When you got that, you don't give a sh**what anyone says to you!!! :D

    If Van Grumpy threw beer at Yao, now that would be different. :D
     
  10. wireonfire

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    I certainly don't. There is a site like clutchcity for the Warriors fans.
     
  11. Pimphand24

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    It's as if Yao has hundreds of slimy sports agents and they all post on this board. :confused:

    There are going to be hardships for Yao to face. He can't achieve his potential without going through some turmoil.
     
  12. RikQuik

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    The fact that most people would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism still holds true in the NBA.

    Repeatedly blowing sunshine up Yao will surely make him feel better about his play, but it will NOT fix the problems with his game. The NBA requires a center with an attitude. Unless Yao gets that attitude, he will constantly be picked on by the other teams in the league.

    Props To JVG fro finding Yao's weak spot, and forcing him to deal with it. Otherwise, the guys is going to become just another center in a league full of average centers.
     
  13. munco

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    they probably are making it bit dramatic but i still think that yao is affected by criticism like most people.
     
  14. michecon

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    Yao just needs to realize the Rockets are built around him and Tmac, not JVG. End of the story.
     
  15. DavidS

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    Yao just needs to realize that it's a team effort. From top to bottom. All players have their roles. And they all have to be on the same page. They win together and lose together. If there's a problem. They work it out.
     
  16. glad_ken

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    T-Mac is a superstar and will get Van Grumpy fired before being destroyed by him...
     
  17. daoshi

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    This is just ridiculous. I get real tired to hear people defending JVG's coaching philosophy. Don’t you think every other coach in the league tells his players the same thing, playing right, playing hard? But it doesn't mean every player will respond to it. The true measure of a success coach is how he can be a leader of the team, have players buy into his system.

    I don't care what motivational approach JVG is using, it is a good approach only if it worked. If it works out for Yao and the Rockets at the end of the season, then it’s a good coach strategy, all powers to JVG. But if it makes Yao miserable, and the Rockets don't do as well, then he is a wrong coach for this team.

    Yes, Yao can be better than he displayed, and none of us doubt he’s been trying. The same could be said about Tmac, who could take less outside shots, go to the hole a little more. But at the end, the coach will be held responsible for the success/failure of the team. When the star players and the team don’t respond, it’s the time to change the coach. Just look at JVG’s mentor Pat Reily, no one doubt his coaching ability, but even he had to resign from coaching because he realized his players wouldn’t respond to his approach anymore. I’m not saying JVG has run his course with the Rockets, I believe he should be given more time, but it sure doesn’t look good now.
     
  18. DavidS

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    DUH!

    Amazing. If we win, it's good. It we lose, it's bad. Brilliant! :(
     
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  19. Hippieloser

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    Hey, I agree. And I agree that if the team doesn't look hopeful by the end of the season, JVG has a good chance of being fired, and for good reason.

    I just don't think we should jump all over him for trying this particular approach out, especially after consecutive 4th-quarter collapses and losses to sub-par Eastern teams. Let's reserve judgement until we see how the team responds. They followed his little rant with two wins, after all.
     
  20. daoshi

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    I'm not talking about fairness here, but that's how you are judged in this business, you stay if you win; you out if you lose.
     

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