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Would you vote for a US presidential candidate who promised to neuter the Executive Branch?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by The Captain, Feb 3, 2026 at 1:30 PM.

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Would you vote for a US presidential candidate who promised to neuter the Executive Branch?

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  1. The Captain

    The Captain ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Very biased opinion seemingly affected by a myopic worldview.

    Think a Graham Platner or pre-stroke Fetterman.
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Its crazy,, do Republicans even claim to still be the keep the federal government in check party
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    Imo, it's a new party. Its the MAGA party now, but they took over the Republicans' machinery and branding. So nothing they believed or advocated for before 2016 should be imputed to them now. The only thing we know about what they believe is what Trump said. Some of the old Republicans decided to convert to MAGA (and dumped the old beliefs), some are held hostage by MAGA (vote for him but aren't orthodox), and some left (stayed republican, but not Republican). In every case, no one speaks for the MAGA party but Trump, imo.
     
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  4. Ottomaton

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    In the same way that you need the defense hawk to make cuts in the DoD, and the liberal, feed-the-poor guy is who you need to cut food stamps, its all about who you are before you do it.

    If, say, Teddy Rosevelt was resurected from the dead I bet he could sell it hard after mud-wrestling a bear and hunting fresh game for lunch and make people think its just bully.

    Neither Michael Dukakas driving a tank nor nor President Dame Lindsay Graham could pull it off, I'd guess.

    The only person who could credibly sell such a course of inaction to the public is a real "man of action".
     
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  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Believe me I get it, Trump wins, period
     
  6. Nook

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    JD Vance and Stephen Miller is largely running the USA right now.

    Marco Rubio seems to think that he can leap Vance and Miller as the future of his party.

    Rubio will be carved up by Vance and Miller -- and when the time comes, those two will try to destroy each other.

    Miller and Vance are really dangerous.
     
  7. ROCKSS

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    Agreed and the weird thing is Rubio actually seems like he wants to do his job and isn't a dbag all the time. I am also of the opinion that Miller feeds the orange blob misinformation, fake images to help him "sell" whatever self-absorbing racist thing he wants to do next
     
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  8. The Captain

    The Captain ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Agree with this assessment.

    That's a trap. Don't trust anyone who accepted a role in the Trump admin.

    Agreed on Miller feeding Trump disinformation. Not that he really has to with Fox News and old movie reruns fueling the agenda.
     
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  9. JoeBarelyCares

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    I love this idea, and have been daydreaming for some time as to what this would look like. It's time to end the Imperial Presidency, which is largely the product of the 20th century, and not the intent of the founders. In fact, the founders worked hard to found a country and craft a constitution that would preclude a future king. And Congress has been feckless in relinquishing its constitutional power to the Executive branch, primarily due to extreme polarization.

    Here are some ideas, none of which will require a constitutional amendment. They could be implemented by Congress, as long as we elected a President that was on board and didn't veto the legislation:

    1. Put all of the executive agencies under the direction of Congress, except for the Defense and State Departments. The President would still have significant power, primarily over the military and foreign affairs. Plus he would still have the veto power over legislation, to operate as a check on Congress's primary jurisdiction over domestic matters.

    2. Put the agencies handling the money under the House. Rename them, starting with "Office of" instead of "Department of". These Offices would be Treasury, Interior, Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Energy, Education, and Veterans Affairs.

    3. Put the agencies with law enforcement duties under the Senate. The Senate is historically the more responsible and measured of the two wings of Congress. These Offices would be Justice and Homeland Security.

    4. Double the size of the House, from 435 to 870 members. The House hasn't been expanded in around a century, even though the population has exploded. With the expansion of the duties of the House to include running the new offices, the need for more representatives will be dire. At the same time, pass a federal law that ends gerrymandering for House seats, and sets up independent commissions.

    5. Pass judicial reforms. First, limit the Supreme Court's ability to overrule Congressional statutes to only where there is a 7-2 super majority in favor. Keep the Court at nine justices, but pass a code of ethics. Require the Court to issue a short opinion for each shadow docket ruling. Set up procedures for nationwide injunctions, which would be required to be brought in the Federal District for D.C.

    6. Finally, pass a new campaign finance reform, getting the big money out of politics. With the Court's jurisdiction being limited to challenge the law only with a 7-2 majority, this would avoid a repeat of the Citizen's United decision. Which was probably the worst Court decision of our lifetime.

    With much of the agencies already gutted by DOGE and Trump, what better time to restore power to the Congress? And remember that our constitution discusses Congress first, in Article 1, and outlines a long list of its powers, while keeping the President's Article II enumerated powers short and sweet. The founders didn't intend for the branches to be "co-equal"; they intended Congress to be the most powerful.
     
  10. ROCKSS

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    Hell of a start, I 100% want some type of ethical behavior clause for SCOTUS but also across the board in EVERY Dept. I am tired of 24/7 lies from the orange man and his team; can we get back to the little fibs. I don't care if we have to have someone fact checking EVERYTHING..............and NO MORE stock trades while you're in Congress

    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's estimated net worth increased from approximately $700,000 before taking office in 2021 to between $22 million and $25 million by late 2025. This significant rise is largely attributed to her ownership stake in her family's construction business, Taylor Commercial, Inc., alongside a stock portfolio that grew by over 470% during her time in Congress


     
  11. Nook

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    Rubio is more of a policy guy and usually doesn't tell as many blatant lies - however, he is a hawk himself. He wants to deport many people that are legally here... he wants the US to depose the leader of Cuba as well.
     
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  12. DonnyMost

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    We are gonna commit national seppuku via the unitary executive theory, lol.
     
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  13. deb4rockets

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    I read this pretty good description of JD Vance in this attached link......

    “He really combines like the smugness of the most annoying coastal elite you know, with the soul of Stephen Miller, with the charisma of a shoe,” Favreau said. “That is JD Vance.”

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2026/02...rs-deliver-scathing-takedown-of-jd-vance.html
     
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    [​IMG]

    Is DOGE around thought we ended Waste Fraud & Abuse....?
     
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    In theory, I might vote for someone offering to reduce the powers of the presidency. However, if it is only up to the President, it could be undone by the next one. (Biden campaigned and at times governed in a way that stepped back from Trump's first term and tried to reestablish some norms, and we see how that played out.) So, I'd be more likely to support someone who advocates for and works towards Constitutional amendments that explicitly limit the power of the presidency, reduces the role of parties in Congress, and severely taxes and curtails the influence of the ultra-wealthy.
     
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  17. The Captain

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    The ruling class deserves it.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    "Uuuuuu-sha"
     

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