ICE murders civilian in Minneapolis

^Good Lord this sock is so crusty & stained - better off just throwing the thing away.

Anyway, **** off dope nobody cares about your crap

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/04/ice-2025-deaths-timeline

 

What a ridiculous comment. Get some help and have a nice day.

 

ICE guns down american citizens and here u r victim blaming and sprouting both side are bad nonsense. Disgusting.

 

1) The only question that new video of Pretti raises is whether the guys who murdered him recognized him from that earlier encounter.

2) There needs to be some checking, but I believe the photo of Pretti in drag that is flying around MAGA sites is a fake. I suspect it is because drag guy has tat sleeves and Pretti apparently did not. Plus, they look like different people.

3) Homan gave a briefing this morning. In response to a question about how many ICE agents are in Minneapolis, this line struck me:

"They've been in theater a long time."

That's a reference to theater of operations, a military term. It's not one commonly used in law enforcement. Expect similar amounts of cosplay and stolen valor while the terrorizing of United States citizens and their community goes on unabated. There is no shift.

4) The administration is in a tough spot right now. If they offer up some fall guys or put restrictions on ICE and BP, then those "agents" lose their enthusiasm. It's fun to go wild and not face any consequences. If they must start behaving like regular law enforcement, some will quit and others will quiet quit, and still others will not stop what they have been doing. It's hard to tell your most loyal soldiers that months of "we have your back" was just a lie. (Of course, anyone with a brain could see this is where it was going and would not have joined up anyway, but I digress.)

If the administration does not make any changes, the public hardens even more against them.

Now would be the time for Democrats to press the advantage, to make every Republican defend ICE operations, and force the administration to make a choice. It's the easiest strategic decision and even guys like Schumer and Jeffries should be able to see that in this moment you have the ability to severely cripple this whole operation both literally and figuratively. All you have to do is oppose and let the pressure keep building.

Oh, wait...

Sigh. It's a list of mostly stuff they should already be doing under the law. And we expect this honest and law-abiding administration to honor the terms of such a deal? Not surprisingly, Democratic leadership is way behind their base and way behind the majority of Americans.

 

That is not at all what I said. R u sure u read my comment?

 

How does a holstered gun discharge? The rest of what you wrote doesn't matter in the context of being shot in the back. So yes, you are victim blaming.

 

You really don't know how a holstered gun can discharge, especially when rolling around on the ground and/or possibly being unholstered?

I said it should be investigated. I have no idea if Pretti's gun discharged or not.

 

If it discharged, we certainly would have heard about it from this administration.

This administration has already lied multiple times about the event - multiple members of the administration lied, even with video of the event readily available.

The execution of deportation by this administration has been shameful - to the point that sentiment has been so negative, that Homan has said that they will stop targeting non criminals.

 

I agree. I thought the premature response by Noem and others in the administration before any type of investigation occurred was totally inappropriate.

If they do stop targeting non-criminals that would be a change of policy from not only this administration, but from Obama's ICE era policies as well when 50% of those deported were non-criminals, including women, children, families, unaccompanied minors and longtime residents.

 

his family has confirmed it's him.

 

thanks. link to the other claim in your post?

 

The typical wacko response to a completely objective viewpoint that even confirms he didn’t think the Darwin club should have been shot. It’s a more liberal view than the average person.

It hurts your feelings so bad that you dismiss objectiveness. This is why I would be shocked if Dems won another election. There base today is full of toxic emotions. Insane comment you made to be honest. And sad.

 

100% agree with all of this.

They broke his rib and turned him back loose on the street for this, but shot him 10 times for putting his hands up and trying to help someone up?


That sums up their training...

 

Obama deported a lot of people - but their focus was not on deporting non criminals.

When Obama came into office, he left the Secure Communities Program that was new under GW Bush for two years, which resulted in a lot of deportations. After that, he used the PEP (Priority Enforcement Program) as the strategy for ICE. Under PEP the strategy was to explicitly target violent criminals.

Under Secure Communities, ICE was given access and records from local law enforcement, and they would often come and deport anyone in a local jail that was not legally in the USA. I remember because at the time, ICE Agents were doing it for massive overtime pay.

It is also really hard to know what the actual numbers are from this year - because the Trump administration has stopped reporting a lot of data that other administrations made available.

Also - there were a lot of protests against ICE during the Obama Presidency. There was also a fissure within the Democratic party over it. However, what was different was the strategy of who was targeted, and how the raids were conducted. Trump and his government officials have used very caustic and divisive language and rhetoric around ICE, has increased spending and Stephen Miller has claimed on national television that ICE offers get immunity no matter what.

Where I do agree with President Trump is on the topic of Sanctuary Cities. If someone is arrested in a city, and they are an illegal citizen - ICE should be notified. I don't think it should extend beyond that, but it was that way under GWB and actually Obama and worked very well. ICE was mostly picking people up and deporting them, not trolling the streets.

Also - keep in mind, under Obama, they counted people turned away at the border as those deported.... so that makes his numbers higher than they actually were. I am sure he likely did that so he could claim he was tough on immigration.

Also - about 75% of the deportations by Trump in his second term have not had any criminal record. Under Obama it was about 50% - which is consistent with their different strategies.

So - I don't mind having a discussion about how Trump's administration has handled deportation in comparison to prior Presidents - but the comparison is going to be apples to oranges.

 

I am hoping having Holman come to Minnesota will start the deescalation process, from his presser he is going to work with the Mayor and the Mayor will give him access to the folks in jail (as they have done previously) and in Prison so when a criminal is ready to leave ICE picks them up

Holman is a crook but at least it's a change from the 1/3 Nazi wanna be.............this admin has ZERO credibility but it's "something"

I think the admin knew they were losing the public trust even more after the MURDER and the way ICE is acting against their own people.

Maybe the mayor had a little CAVA bag for Holman

 

The Boston Massacre, known in Great Britain as the Incident on King Street,[1] was a confrontation, on March 5, 1770, during the American Revolution in Boston in what was then the colonial-era Province of Massachusetts Bay.

In the confrontation, nine British soldiers shot several in a crowd, estimated between 300 and 400, who were harassing them verbally and throwing various projectiles. The event was subsequently described as "a massacre" by Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and other leading Patriots who later became central proponents of independence during the American Revolution and Revolutionary War.[2][3] British troops had been stationed in the Province of Massachusetts Bay since 1768 in order to support Crown-appointed officials and to enforce unpopular legislation implemented by the British Parliament.

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The Journal of Occurrences were an anonymous series of newspaper articles which chronicled the clashes between civilians and soldiers in Boston, feeding tensions with its sometimes exaggerated accounts, but those tensions rose markedly after Christopher Seider, "a young lad about eleven Years of Age", was killed by a customs employee on February 22, 1770.[15] Seider's death was covered in the Boston Gazette, and his funeral was described as one of the largest of the time in Boston. The killing and subsequent media coverage inflamed tensions, with groups of colonists looking for soldiers to harass, and soldiers also looking for confrontation.

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Journal of Occurrences
Their articles primary focused on the many grievances held by Bostonians toward the military occupation, including its subversion of civil authority and alleged misbehavior by occupational troops. The Journal also criticized the impressment of colonial sailors into the Royal Navy.[5] Local customs officers were also portrayed in a negative light by the articles.[6] The authors of the articles claimed that what they wrote was "strictly fact", while British officials in Boston insisted that it was mostly fiction

Interesting


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CONGRATS MAGA . . .. . . YOU ARE ALL TORIES . . .YOU ARE THE BRITS!!
(I told you all they wanted to return to having a king)

 

I mean per video he actually shoved an agent. Any reason you left that part out?

 

This guy is living the dream