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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

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  1. Snake Diggit

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    Their hypothetical of Pena for Duran and a lesser prospect was ridiculous, but a Pena to Boston trade isn’t insane. Maybe:

    Red Sox get:
    SS Jeremy Pena
    RP Bryan Abreu

    Astros get:
    OF Jarren Duran
    P Connelly Early
    IF Mikey Romero
    P Marcus Phillips

    Astros restock their farm system and get a controllable LH OF who can lead off. Red Sox bolster their infield and bullpen.

    Astros roster:
    OF Duran
    3B Paredes
    DH Alvarez
    SS Correa
    2B Altuve
    C Diaz
    1B Walker
    OF Sanchez/Meyers platoon
    OF Cole
    Bench: Matthews, Allen, Salazar
    SP: Brown, Imai, Javier, Burrows, Arrighetti, Weiss
    RP: Hader, King, Pearson, McCullers, Okert, Munoz, De Los Santos
    Optioned: Gordon, Early, Blubaugh, Alexander, France, Ullola, Murray, Sousa, Whitcomb, Dezenzo, Smith
    60-Day IL: Blanco, Wesneski, Walter, McCullers
     
    #3481 Snake Diggit, Jan 28, 2026 at 4:23 PM
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    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
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    Correa will not be playing SS full time. He made it clear at fan fest that he isn’t even the backup.

    Which is a shame because I agree Peña would be the most valuable trade chip … but it’s just off of the table it seems.
     
    #3482 cmlmel77, Jan 29, 2026 at 12:35 AM
  3. Snake Diggit

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    Astros get:
    SS Dyan Jorge
    OF Mickey Moniak

    Rockies get:
    1B Christian Walker
    $24M ($12M 2026, $12M 2027)

    Rockies GM mentioned adding at 1B yesterday; Walker could very well end up being the best hitter on their team. This clears 1B for Paredes, adds a LHH OF, adds a high risk/ceiling AA SS (Jorge was a big bonus int’l signee) and opens up $4M in 2026 payroll flexibility. Also makes trading Meyers or Sanchez a lot easier. Resulting position player roster:

    SS Pena
    1B Paredes
    DH Alvarez
    3B Correa
    2B Altuve
    C Diaz
    LF Sanchez/Matthews platoon
    RF Moniak/Smith platoon
    CF Cole/Meyers platoon
    Bench: Vazquez, Allen
     
    #3483 Snake Diggit, Jan 29, 2026 at 1:21 PM
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    Like it. Does Walker have a no trade clause? Somebody mentioned one.
     
    #3484 Hemingway, Jan 29, 2026 at 1:29 PM
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  5. Jeremy Williams

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    Moniak projected WAR: 0.9
    Walker projected WAR: 1.7

    This makes the team worse and gives away 24M. Hard no.
     
    #3485 Jeremy Williams, Jan 29, 2026 at 1:30 PM
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  6. Snake Diggit

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    Fangraphs projects Walker for 1.7 fwar over 616 pa. They project Moniak for 0.9 over 469. It’s a minimal difference after factoring in the playing time difference and is more than overcome in the Astros favor when factoring in the freed up payroll and the benefit of getting Paredes more playing time. And that doesn’t take into account the value of the prospect.
     
    #3486 Snake Diggit, Jan 29, 2026 at 1:35 PM
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    I believe he has a limited (6 team?) no trade clause.
     
    #3487 Snake Diggit, Jan 29, 2026 at 1:37 PM
  8. Jeremy Williams

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    Does adding Moniak and removing Walker actually add wins? I have a hard time believing this to be so. I have a lot more faith that Walker plays more closely to his 2nd half production.
     
    #3488 Jeremy Williams, Jan 29, 2026 at 1:58 PM
  9. Snake Diggit

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    If you use fangraphs’ depth chart projections, it depends on how they use the extra payroll. It’s probabiy a near break even move (if you assume $4M can buy 0.4fwar), but adds a prospect and $8M payroll flexibility in 2027, so a net win. Example, if they keep Walker and Moniak’s pa the same and give Paredes the difference (at his projected war/pa rate), then use the $4M to add Winker to take a few pa from their last men on the depth chart, it’d come out like this:

    out:
    Walker: 1.7fwar over 616 pa
    Trammell/Dezenzo/Whitcomb: 0.3fwar over 154 pa

    in:
    Moniak: 0.9fwar over 469 pa
    Paredes: 0.7fwar over 156 pa
    Winker: 0.4fwar over 154 pa

    That is a net zero in 2026, but adds a prospect and $8M in payroll flexibility to 2027.

    If you say the deal doesn’t make sense unless Houston eats less money, I won’t really argue with that.
     
    #3489 Snake Diggit, Jan 29, 2026 at 3:26 PM
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    Walker will bounce back this year, cutting down his ks and increasing his walk rate. Won't be surprised he hits 30+ bombs again. We should keep him
     
    #3490 Castian Crew, Jan 29, 2026 at 3:51 PM
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    I hope you’re right
     
    #3491 Snake Diggit, Jan 29, 2026 at 4:14 PM
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    The Red Sox are nuts.

    They do have a lot of good young players coming up, but they seem to think they can get very good players from the Astros for scraps.

    It would be hard for me to not be an ******* if I were a GM and kept being asked about trades that aren’t remotely realistic.
     
    #3492 Nook, Jan 29, 2026 at 4:24 PM
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    Red Sox GM, "So, we would like to take Ohtani off your hands and in exchange we have a few late round draft picks we can give you as well as some cash. Let me know if you're interested!"
     
    #3493 Castian Crew, Jan 29, 2026 at 4:37 PM
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    I am sure the Astros have pondered the same question: at what financial price does it make sense to offload Walker? But I’m sure they also consider that the player they paid for when they gave Walker a contract could very well show up this year and next.

    At the end of the day, I believe that the best team we have to put on the field is the one that’s currently rostered. When Altuve or Alvarez is in LF, this team has the best shot at putting up runs.

    The Astros need the rest of our OF to contribute through a full 162 game season to keep everyone healthy. But for the postseason, using Alvarez in LF is going to give us the most powerful lineup.
     
    #3494 Jeremy Williams, Jan 29, 2026 at 4:58 PM
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  15. DVauthrin

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    In other words, this Red Sox front office is the equivalent of a fantasy baseball or football owner that offers insanely lopsided trades in hopes the other owner will accidentally accept.

    Screw them.
     
    #3495 DVauthrin, Jan 29, 2026 at 9:53 PM
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