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Is Amare now a better Center than Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hikanoo49, Nov 14, 2004.

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  1. Tyler Durden

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    Don't confuse "not looking" and "not knowing how to".

    The point is, Tmac and Yao are probably 50/50 for MVP of the Rockets. While there is without a doubt that Steve Nash is the MVP for the Suns.
     
  2. YallMean

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    Darn, had Amare not bounce some long in High School, we could've drafted him in the Eddie Griffin draft year. Darn!!!!
     
  3. Phreak3

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    But then we probably wouldn't have gotten Yao, which might be good or bad depending upon your perspective.
     
  4. swilkins

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    A good point guard will make you look like a f-n genious.
     
  5. lancet

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    Sure Amare can score lots of points when nobody bothers to or front him to deny the ball, or double-triple team him after the ball. I am not saying he is not good or anything. What I am saying watch how he performs when there is actually a good defender on him, or in a play-off slowed down system when people start play against his weakness. I remember last time Yao played against Amare, Yao was completely dominating Amare, even Amare did have two dunks on Yao.
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    Why do so many of you guys hate on amare. He has overcome more than most people ever will. Right now he is playing better than yao. Its not guaranteed who will be better. Only time will tell.
     
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    I don't even care who is better. It is just plain wrong to try and say Amare can not do this or can't score when he is being fronted or teams can't build around him. Those are just crazy arguments.

    Amare is a stud that teams are going to try and game plan for. No coach in his right mind is going to over look a player that is scoring almost 30 a night and shooting well over 50%.

    Both players are great...Period. I would take either Amare or Yao and consider myself very lucky.
     
  8. wireonfire

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    FYI, if you look at the shotchart, more than half of Amare's shots are at the rim.
     
  9. clove

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    Agreed.

    I still believe that Amare, while a very good player, is not a person to build a championship team around. This is just my personal opinion. I believe championship teams are half court oriented, something that Amare's style just doesn't fit, with him being the man. It will be awsome to have him play along duncan/yao/KG/Shaq/Kobe, but he can not be the man on those team. Again, just my personal opinion.
     
  10. clove

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    I wasn't quite finished Crash.

    Picture 1 min left in fourth quarter, game's tied, a timeout is called:
    The defence will be set. Do you want Amare to get the ball and initiate the offense? I would not. All his go to moves will be shut down! Unlike Yao/Duncan/Shaq etc, Amare's go-to move(drive to the right, be stronger and jump faster/higher than the defender) can be shut down.

    While defense is not set, Amare plays as good as anyone in the league. But playoffs are all about beating the set defense in my opinion.
     
  11. Little Stevie

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    Have you guys even watched Amare play? He get's double and triple teamed all the time but just forces his way through them. So what if he get's most of his points around the basket. Last I knew the point of basketball was to have the most points at the end of the game regardless of how you got them, whether it's from dunks, FT's, or jumpers. Amare has an almost complete game now. He just needs to work on his mid-range jumper a little more (it's pretty good now) and learn to pass out of the double and triple teams.

    I wouldn't say he's a better center than Yao because he isn't a center but as someone else said he plays much bigger than his size. And he has a drive I haven't seen in very many players. He is always working on his game and there is no telling how good he can be. The scary thing is that for as good as he is now he is still very raw.
     
  12. yaopao

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    Amare is light year ahead of Yao. It really isn't close.

    Amare is a physical. Yao is very soft for a guy his size.

    Amare likes to score inside. Yao likes to stay 10-15 ft away and shoot fadeaways. Dominant big men need to get inside, not fade away from the bucket.

    Amare is a more consistent rebounder and has better inside presence. Yao is way too slow to guard the basket. How many times does he get called for a soft foul trying to draw a charge? 7 ft 6 guys should be looking to block a shot, not draw a charge.

    Obviously Yao is a good player, but he has very little presence for a guy with his size and skill. Mentally, Yao is too weak and soft. I don't know what it will take to make him play like a man possessed.
     
  13. T-man

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    Dang Tyler, That may be the most foolish I have ever seen anyone make themselves look. You can't build your team around a 21 year old with those stats, but you can with a 24 year old whose stats are much worse in every category after they have both been in the league 3 years. I would say you lost that debate and it wasn't even close. The minutes argument does not hold water either. That is part of the game, conditioning and staying out of foul trouble.
     
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    I really freaking dont know WTF this Amare better than Yao debate about. For you Amare lovers, there is the Phoenix board and you can kiss him all you want over there. This thread should be locked. :mad:
     
  15. T-man

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to remember Amare hitting a 3 with a man in his face in the playoffs against the Spurs as a rookie to send the game to o.t.. A game they won in overtime in which he more than held his own against Duncan. They lost the series, but Amare for a kid straight out of highschool seem to do just fine in the playoffs against the MVP.
     
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    #156 Roc Paint, Nov 19, 2004
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    I can see that I screwed that all up. How about **** you instead. Don't ever test me you bottom feeder.
     
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    Amare is a good player.But......
    "He get's double and triple teamed all the time."
    You win!
    Did you blush with shame before running off at the mouth?
     
  20. spacepimp

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    you want to know why Amare does not get doubled team all the time? because his teammates will kill you . Nash,johnson,marion,richardson

    now that is how you build a team, balance scoring, even superstars have off days but it is rare when 5 quality starters all have an off day.
     

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