ICE is there looking for illegal immigrants. Thats it, these aren't soldiers sent by Trump to kidnap and opress citizens. These people could be living their normal lives unbothered but they are chosing this... They are willingly leaving their homes, their lives to protest something that has always existed. Deportations, where were they when Obama was doing it? Even Biden deported a $hit ton of people towards the end of his tenure..... Why no protests then? Make it make sense... This matters only when it's Trump orders....
With this being your take, I think you're being deeply dishonest with yourself on this topic. No people shouldn't do that, imo. A number of Jan 6th protestors 100% physically stopped law enforcement from fulfilling their duties. Over a dozen officers were hospitalized. By your logic in this thread on this topic, the cops should have killed dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of the people who physically interfered with their duties and orders on that day?
You have no words, because you have no sensible thoughts on this matter to attach them to. Even IF the woman who ICE pushed to the ground was being stupid, she was still not doing anything illegal. You desperately want to believe the man coming to her aid was doing something wrong, because you are committed to whitewashing the Trump admin’s street violence against Americans. But you are unable to articulate how he was wrong, and therefore “no words”.
You think ICE’s methods under Trump are no different? Is that really the position you’re trying to push here?
this thing was never about going after violent illegal immigrants, only about terrorizing blue states and taking away people’s rights we are seeing the 1st, 2nd, and 4th amendments getting stripped away in real time now they can go up to any brown person and ask for their papers…now they are talking about going into people’s homes without a warrant JD Vance and Stephen Miller saying these masked thugs have absolute immunity there was a video yesterday of an ICE agent taking a picture of someone on the sidewalk as well as the license plate of another person because they were filming them…when the lady asked why her picture was being taken, the ICE agent said “we have a nice little database going, and now you’re a domestic terrorist” if you film them, you get assaulted and killed like Alex Pretti…then you get labeled a domestic terrorist who was looking to assassinate ICE agents and they destroy the crime scene while ignoring a warrant signed by a judge for investigators to have access to said crime scene a female journalist 2 days ago was pepper sprayed and punched in the eye they whisk away the shooter of Renee Good and say they will not cooperate with or even open an investigation we have masked thugs roaming the streets beating, assaulting, and killing American citizens with impunity, and the party that was against a “tyrannical government” sits there and applauds…the party that claims to be all about the 2A amendment applauds Pretti’s death this is what they’re doing to protestors If this was about violent illegals, why is there not 3000 ICE agents in TX or FL where there’s more illegals than anywhere? Instead they’re roaming the streets of Minnesota
Two totally different scenarios, two totally different events. I have never said Jan 6 was okay or justified. I have never supported how that was handled by either side but when half the country sees an extremely weird election filled with obscurities and shadyness I can see why some felt marching for our rights to chose our president was important. These people aren't marching for free and fair elections. They are marching for illegal immigrants. In both cases there were deaths, it's to be expected.
Ice is violating our 4th amendment regularly Entering homes without a warrant , making arrests with respect to racial profiling rather than evidence They also violate the 5th amendment Not giving due process during arrests and by treating detainees inappropriately while detained They've also deported US citizens and not just children with immigrant parents . Which , maybe is not a.constitutional violation but is certainly illegal
Recording filming and protesting falls under the 1st the right to bear arms (the right—not use them just like this guy) is protected under the 2nd amendment. The 4th amendment protects Americans from unwarranted searches/etc, ICE is completely disregarding the need for a warrant when entering many of these houses. it’s obviously not going to click for you but I just spelled it out. I’m sure there’s “but they were dark brownies or blacks being mean!” Excuse somewhere in there @Salvy is a good dude. He’ll see the light soon.
Beat me to it. As if it even needs to be said. never in the history of this country have the inalienable rights been violated…and blantantly
They aren't marching for illegal immigrants They are marching because ICE is violating laws , detaining citizens , deporting legal immigrants , and killing people
Can you please explain how she was interfering. She was in the street . She gets pushed to the sidewalk. Once on the sidewalk she gets pushed down again . Doesn't look like there was a detention anywhere near them that she would reasonably be interfering in
Calling them "totally different" doesn't make the logical fallacy you have laid out disappear. I'm not trying to grill you, I appreciate the response, but take a good look at the logic you have confidently espoused in this thread, and perhaps ask yourself where that confidence came from.
This situation should have ended at 12 secs in that video. pushed her once. Got her off the street. Now walk away. Nope. he pushed her again and started the unnecessary chain of events that led to murder.
MAGA please read this and understand it. People are not against it because Trump is doing it. People are against it because of the HOW, and what the downstream consequences of it will be if we let the govt have zero accountability.
I will tell you one thing. 77 million did not vote for cold blooded murder of a law abiding US citizen. Just a normal white dude. no criminal history. Not a lesbian! Out of the 77 million, how many would truly support this? How many voted along party lines? don’t use the 77 million votes to justify murder of American citizens. Do better.
his support has cratered among every single demographic except for white people…and not just by a couple percentage points either I doubt Latinos voted to be accosted for their papers while driving to work or the grocery store MAGA really thinks they have the support of this country…they don’t Trump is a -20 on immigration, and it’s only been a year…he was a positive for this issue at the start of his term when the lie about only going after violent illegals was still believed and people’s rights weren’t getting destroyed
