Trading a potential future star for a possibly potential future star is just about the dumbest thing an organization can do. You're voluntarily flipping a coin on keeping/losing what you already have. Basically Amen is already worth multiple FRP's. You can't trade him for a FRP.
what a stupid scenario. Next time make sure both guys have played real regular season games with significant minutes.
(controversial take) I might give them Sengun for that pick ..... Reed & Kingston Flemings would be a wild back court with Amen @ the 3 spot. I like Sengun, feel like I've underestimated him from the get go, but I still don't see building a team around him, especially one with Amen, can't have 2 non shooters. Maybe I'm crazy ....
This is a better question than some might think. Fleming is up to about number 5 or so now for Naismith national player of the year according to Vegas odds and is a freshman with a ton of games left to get even better. Plus he has decent size for a PG. To answer the original question, no, I probably wouldn't make the trade, only because Amen is more of a sure and a proven thing, but I would give up an awful lot for him.
I’m not trading our future top 5 player for anybody. I don’t think you even trade Sengun for a top 3 pick this year as good as the draft class is since none are probably going to have an instant impact on a championship level roster. We would be putting the next 2 years in limbo. I’m not familiar with the big men in the draft. Are any of them generational like Cooper is/was supposed to be? Are any of them that much better than Harper, because I wouldn’t trade Sengun for him?
I think it has more to do with the quantity, the quality is there, slightly different but same high floor obviously...if you have multiple picks. Imagine u have an army of Kon Knueppel.... As you already said, bottom teams with several picks will be having their moments. The Rockets have a different timeline and no firsts, so it does not concern them that much.
Kingston Fleming is doing it against college rosters, not NBA rosters so the second graph is pretty much moot. I get being excited about college stars and would consider trading 3 or 4 FRP’s for a chance to draft top 3 in this draft. Hell, I wanted to do it for Edgecomb last year. But throwing away established young talent with really high ceilings for college players is too big a gamble, unless it’s a Wemby or Flagg type sure thing. Sengun started out the season better than he ever has. I believe it is injuries and Ime’s changing his role that has set him back. He is still the second best center in the league if you eliminate guys that can’t ever stay on the floor like Embid and Davis. You don’t trade that kind of potential that has already been an all-star at 23.
I do not get the urgency ....... The world still stands next year....(so I hope after what happened in the World). Spoiler Kevin Durant was a risk, they could have waited out this year, secured 2026 picks..... and then go after a superstar. You basically made the Rockets the Houston Durants with the goal to selfishly win a Chip for his legacy.....lol. You put pressure on yourself just to please the Ego of some crazy social media fanatic. It is not What they did but rather the Impatience they did it with......after telling 3 straight years the Fans should be Patient with the rebuild.
Not even just Flemings, there are other players, Philon, Mikel Brown jr., Darius Acuff, Killyan Toure.......you could take a glimpse at. And also combo guards.....
If I he I haven’t been watching college ball this year being a Memphis Tiger fan. I guess I’ll have to start. The vols are on TV here every game they play. I don’t think Sengun is untouchable but not sure what the plan at center would be if you traded him for a perimeter player. People have fried me before, but after the season and before the lottery, Sengun for Sabonis, 26, 28, and 30 unprotected might get it done. You’d have to add some filler salaries. Supposedly this is a great draft. Can’t do it at deadline, because Sengun would elevate Sac’s record too much.
Kingston will be an All Star in the NBA, quite possibly a superstar. As I see it, the real question at this point should not be whether the Rockets would trade Amen or Sengun for him. It should be whether we would put KD in the deal. For the record, I'm sky high on Slim Reapa. I thought he wouldn't stay healthy, but he's a freak whose adjusted his game and body to the point where he's aging like fine wine...just needs the pieces around him. This might set us back in the short term, but would open a longer much more serious window. We'd have time/room to maneuver out of FVV...and, plenty of ammo to get whatever we need.
Been saying for a couple weeks now I would trade Sengun if it got us Peterson but would probably do it for any combo guard with all star potential to throw in the backcourt with Reed and move Amen to forward
