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New ICE policy allows officers to enter homes without a judge’s warrant.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Jan 22, 2026 at 7:18 PM.

  1. AleksandarN

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    Well there you have it. What do you Trump boot lickers say about this. There goes your fourth amendment rights. Happy now

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/ice-memo-warrantless-entry-what-we-know

     
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    “The Bill of Rights, we thought, were the first 10 amendments,” said Mark Graber, a constitutional law scholar and University of Maryland professor.

    With the newly discovered memo, he said: “I guess now we’re down to nine.”

    what a scathing rebuke…

    “we’re now down to 9…ho-hum”

    and here’s another milquetoast response…

    “This administration’s general stance is that immigrants are ‘invaders’ and immigration officials should be allowed to expedite their arrest, detention and deportation,” said Kathleen Bush-Joseph, an attorney and analyst at the Migration Policy Institute. In doing so, she said, “they are pushing so many legal boundaries and doing things that have not been tried before in this way.”
     
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    It seems that your source has mislead you.

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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    AP news research is better than TomFitton.
     
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    Its so unbelievable how much this admin lies from top to bottom about literally anything. Admin warrants have NEVER been recognized by the supreme court to enter someone home. Jesus christ its just insane
     
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    Little Pink Houses...
     
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    All leftists are lying TRASH.

     
  10. rimrocker

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    I'll just note that general warrants are why we have the 4th Amendment. Before we secured our independence, British officials and military could search and seize people's property at will with no judiciary process. Jefferson referenced this in the Declaration:

    "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

    In the Virginia Declaration of Rights in 1776, George Mason wrote:

    “That general warrants, whereby any officer or messenger may be commanded to search suspected places without evidence of a fact committed, or to seize any person or persons not named, or whose offense is not particularly described and supported by evidence, are grievous and oppressive and ought not to be granted.”

    After Yorktown, John Adams pushed through the first law against general warrants in Massachusetts, which soon became a model for other states. In previous remarks, Adams said this:

    "[A]n officer should show probable grounds, should take his oath on it, should do this before a magistrate, and that such magistrate, if he thinks proper should issue a special warrant to a constable to search the places. . . It is the business of this court to demolish this monster of oppression, and to tear into rags this remnant of Starchamber tyranny.”

    The 4th Amendment codified these sentiments at the Federal level:

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    That's about as plain as you can get. When considered with the history--the original intent--it is clear this is a lawless and unconstitutional action by DHS/ICE.

    Now, our MAGA friends will cynically assert that all the references to "people" made by the Founders really meant only citizens. That is clearly not the case. Notice the specific use of people and persons in the 4th Amendment. People means everyone and this is a common construct in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
     
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    My understanding is that the process has played out and they're simply fugitives and law enforcement has the duty to go into wherever they are and remove them.

    Are you saying that, after a judge has issued a removal order, that law enforcement has to get additional judicial approval to go onto a property to apprehend them?
     
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    Is there or is there not a warrant to enter?
    Stop being dense.
     
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    On the contrary.
     
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    It's what the constitution says. Warrants have to be very specific and have evidentiary cause presented. That is in place to pretct people from the government over reach. It was one of the main factors that motivated the colonies to declare independence from England.
     
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    another convenient lie by the ICE mouthpiece
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    from ChatGPT

     
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    The Immigrants and violated Americans will start feeling like
    They would rather be Judged by 12
    than carried by 6

    Rocket River
    PEw Pew Pew Pew all masked me entering your house without your permission
     
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    2nd amendment will be used to enforce the 4th amendment.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    Given how long they've been using this justification already, I'm surprised we haven't seen reports of cases in the courts where the arrests (or 'detentions' if you prefer) are challenged and thrown out for want of a judicial warrant. Probably I shouldn't be.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    Ya know, one little law I'd like for Congress to enact would be to forbid the executive branch from adopting judiciary language for their executive branch staff and actions. 'Administrative law judges', 'county judges,' and 'subpoenas' and 'warrants' issued by the executive branch would all have to be renamed. We would have less confusion in the public.
     
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    Wouldn't the victim have to sue? There is one recent public case where they forcibly entered a U.S. citizen's home using this justification, and that one will likely result in a lawsuit, as their spokesperson said they are considering legal action.
     
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