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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. MystikArkitect

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    The intent is for Reed to cut into the Rockets deficit. Not create a deficit for the opponent.
     
  2. baubo

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    If you follow these posts you'd know I specifically said I would've preferred the Rockets take Clingan over Reed if we are doing a re-draft. I would've taken any player who has size and known for defense over Reed given Ime's preference in who he plays and who he gives rope to. My original post wasn't even about Castle it was about GM picking prospects the coach would actually develop. I don't know why everyone has to focus on crapping on Castle when my original post was only about Ime not developing Reed.
     
  3. astrosrule

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    But Reed looks great. Of course with a real offensive coach he would look better, but he still looks great. And he has massive long term potential unlike those guys and fits the team unlike those guys. Maybe those guys would be “better” for ime but certainly worse for the rockets.
     
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    He wouldn't learn anything from Silas. He would only shoot 15 threes a game.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    And be an all star.

    DD
     
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    Watch Ime give Reed 15 minutes next game and throw Holiday/Davidson out there for no reason
     
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  7. DaDakota

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    He is ONE of our franchise players - Sengun, Amen and Reed are the keystones.

    DD
     
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    One out of three isn't bad. For Sengun to take this team to the next level, he has to take and MAKE more 3's, he can't just sit around the rim

    And Reed needs to become consistent! Having a good game every 5 or 6 games out does this team no good. The Rockets need CONSISTENT scoring off the bench! We saw first hand last night when we get it
     
  9. baubo

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    You are saying things that sounds nice but no substance to back it up. What makes his potential vastly better than Clingan or Castle besides him being a Rocket so we root for him more? Have you even seen either of them play? What makes Reed "great" right now? He's averaging 13/3/3 as an undersized guard shooting below league average TS%. Which part of that is a great player? You can argue he may be a great player at some point in the future, but I've also heard that about Jalen Green for 4 years before he just got dumped for a 40yr old. If every young player has a great future then the league would be filled with like 10 All-stars on each team.
     
  10. Easy

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    I am for Reed to start mainly because he should be playing 30+ minutes a game.

    The argument against his starting is that playing with Durant/Sengun ISO diminishes his effectiveness. I agree. But if he is going to play more than 30 mpg, he will overlap with Sengun and Durant A LOT. And if he is trusted to finish the game like last night, he will be finishing games with both Durant and Sengun. Might as well adjust the offense to fit those guys together. I don't have a lot of faith in Ime for doing that. What I hope is for Durant and Sengun, especially Durant to see the light of letting Reed shine and forget about the simpleminded iso game for himself.
     
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  11. BonziWellsGOAT

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    I mean he is only half a percentage off of league average and that factors in big men. Actually above average TS% in his position. I get you're using it to make a point but it's a bit bad faith
     
  12. MrButtocks

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    I've been impressed with all three players so I'm not going to say one has more potential than the others. But what makes Reed "great" is that he has an elite complementary skill. Shooting 40% from deep and having a high steal rate is going to give a player a valuable role especially alongside other stars. His below average TS% is actually higher than Castle's as is his PER. And his scoring per possession is right there with Castle's, he just plays fewer minutes. Sheppard was drafted to be a FVV replacement and so far he's showing he can become that. Hell, I think he can be a lot better than FVV.

    Castle's skillset is similar to Amen's while not being quite as good on the defensive end, nor is he as efficient. He doesn't shoot well so it would be hard to slot him next to Amen and Sengun. Kind of like how Westbrook's stat lines were impressive, but his lack of shooting and efficiency hampered his ability to play off others. If you're not talented enough to be the main man, you'd better be able to shoot. We don't need to worry about that with Reed.
     
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  13. MystikArkitect

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    Because he's the best shooting prospect to enter the league since Wardell. Will he get there? Who knows. You know who wont get anywhere because he isnt elite at anything?

    Castle.

    At least Jalen had elite tools so you could make the argument. Clingan and Castle are dudes. Sheppard is a talent. He was the only real talent in his draft and two teams passed on him for two dudes.
     
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    Have a video I'd like to embed on this, how can I do that? My kids sat along the scorers table and have a great angle of that Reed 3 + Ime's dap.
     
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    I mentioned the same exact thing in another thread. Great minds think alike. Durant may be more likely at this point to change. He really wants to win. So does Ime, but his stubbornest gets in the way. Amen or Reed when Amen is out need to initiate most of the time. Reed will need help with more picks and motion. Sengun and Durant ISOs don’t go away completely, just less predominant.
     
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    Upload to YouTube (or somewhere like Streamable if that's easier), then when you post/reply here you should see a media embed button in the editor toolbar, two buttons to the right of the smiley face. Just click that and paste your link.
     
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    Just like Cam, huh?
     
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  18. MystikArkitect

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    There is an elephant in the room no one wants to address.
     
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    Reed was drafted because of his shooting and was the best available in a pretty weak draft. He was and is a much better fit for the Rockets. Whether they thought he was going to be a pg is up for debate. Right now, but maybe not forever, he is best when off-ball.
     
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  20. glimmertwins

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    That's not true. He was drafted because he was the best player available or BPA (in a weak draft by the way - he would be drafted in the 10-15 range in a loaded draft). In fact I would say everyone we have drafted fits that situation. That may seem like an insignificant nuance, but it's really important and speaks to why this team has talent without true cohesion - because we have drafted BPA, there hasn't been a larger model for team identity here.

    This is why the 'franchise player' conversations are so muddy because this team is built with a bunch of talented guys but lacks some of the surrounding player infrastructure to enable them. Stone has tried to address that in some of the FA pick ups (Stevo, Fred, Dillon, later Durant) but this team still hasn't built a team to surround around any one singular talent to optimize what that player does. Some pieces sorta fit together(Amen can hide a lot of defensive shortcomings of those around him as an example) but right now we are cooking with a basket of random ass ingredients - a turnip, some BBQ chicken, some pomegranate seeds, some blueberries, etc. Some things pair better with each than others but the cohesive dish is not yet defined and I'm not sure if Udoka is the chef that is going to figure out how to take this collection of players and make something that exceeds the parts.....and that's not to say Udoka is a bad coach, it's just to say - the org needs to trade things in our basket for pieces that make a little more sense together. I have thoughts of how they should do it, but ultimately this is about determining who we are optimizing for because for example if Amen is the guy, then maybe some of the poorer shooters in the rotation are not as necessary(even if they are real all stars without a jump shot!).
     
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