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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. Corrosion

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    Doesn't it make more sense to hand over criminals before they are released from jails to ICE than having all this chaos in the streets?
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Criminals are in jail. Where would they be handed over to if they are already in jail?
     
  3. Corrosion

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    Yes.
     
  4. Corrosion

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    Treat them like anyone else with an outstanding warrant.

    Once they have served their time on the case they are currently in jail for, contact the entity - another county, state or ICE that has the warrant and give them X amount of time to pick them up.

    Cutting them loose just doesn't make sense. This way only the criminals get caught, no collateral damage of some otherwise innocent guy getting detained and deported..

    Also, those with a final order of removal - there are many. They've had their due process.
     
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    It's a shame we have liberals on here that actually condone others on their side committing crimes- now the dum bich is gonna have a felony record. lol
     
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    They got to go to Lane Bryant to find her a prison suit breh
     
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  10. The Captain

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    This is how patriots are made:

    Army reservist says he's spent weeks trying to free his wife from immigration detention
    Stephanie Kenny-Velasquez had an asylum case pending and no criminal record, her brother and husband said.
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    Chris Busby and Stephanie Kenny-Velasquez.Chris Busby

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    U.S. Army Reserve Black Hawk pilot Chris Busby, 28, and Stephanie Kenny-Velasquez, 25, went to an Austin courthouse to get their marriage certificate on Dec. 3.

    Roughly 48 hours later, Velasquez entered a Houston Immigration and Customs Enforcement office for a routine check-in and never emerged, Busby said. The uncertainty has left the newlywed questioning whether his time serving the country was worth it, he said.

    “Stephanie is beautiful, she is smart, she’s amazing,” he said. “If it means sacrificing myself or my career to free her, I will do it.”

    Busby, who enlisted in the Army Reserve in 2015, has spent the last six weeks looking for ways to free his wife from detention. Despite his years of service and their recent nuptials, Velasquez was denied bond on Jan. 9, according to her lawyer.

    The Department of Homeland Security did not respond to a request for comment. The Department of Justice declined to comment on Velasquez’s case.

    Velasquez came to the United States in 2021 hoping to start a new life far from the violence and political instability of her native Venezuela. She does not have a criminal record and presented herself to immigration officials in Miami when she arrived in the country.

    In the meantime, Velasquez, 25, settled into life in Austin. She picked up a job at a local car wash and took classes to get her real estate license.

    The couple met in March and Busby, 28, immediately knew she was the one.

    “I’ve never met anyone like her,” he said. “She came here and just wanted to be the best.”

    Their families had no idea that the couple planned to marry, and that’s how Busby said he wanted it. Busby said he was saving up money from his glass installation business to pay for a big wedding down the line.

    Velasquez had an asylum case pending at the time of her detention.

    Her brother, Oscar, described his younger sister as ambitious and driven. She hoped to start her own company one day and diligently saved money from working at the car wash and helping Busby with his window tinting business. She was studying for her real estate exam on the car ride to her immigration check-in, her husband said, adding that the test was scheduled for the following week.

    “She worked so hard for everything she had,” her brother said. “She was so happy.”

    But on the day his sister was scheduled to check in with immigration officials, the family remained worried that Velasquez could be swept up in President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown despite her recent marriage and pending asylum case, he said.

    Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans have fled political repression and economic crisis in recent years, arriving in the United States seeking asylum or other legal protections like temporary protected status, or TPS.

    Trump moved to revoke TPS for many Venezuelans, which has been in place since 2023, and from other countries as part of his agenda to restrict immigration. That has been allowed to move forwardwhile legal challenges to the action make their way through the courts.

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    “We left to have a better future, more opportunities. Now if we go outside, we could be stopped by ICE,” Oscar said.

    Like other Venezuelans who have emigrated, Oscar said returning to Venezuela right now is unthinkable following the ouster of Nicolás Maduro. The country is far too dangerous and unstable for them to return, he said.


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    Velasquez was transferred to the Montgomery Processing Center in Conroe, nearly three hours away from Austin. Since she entered detention her hair has thinned, Busby said. She sleeps fitfully in a bunk bed surrounded by 80 women, who share seven tablets to contact loved ones and lawyers, Busby said. They are allowed one visit per week and given food that is barely edible, he added.

    The stress has taken a toll on Velasquez, according to her husband.

    “The girl is 25 years old. She should not be looking like she’s pushing 40,” Busby said.

    The couple is now hoping for a Hail Mary in the form of the military’s Parole in Place program, which is intended to provide legal protections for spouses who lack U.S citizenship.

    But the administration has slowly chipped away at the program, and a 2024 court ruling ended a Biden-era expansion called Keeping Families Together, which added stepchildren to the list of eligible relatives.

    A message on the initiative’s website said the Department of Homeland Security would no longer accept applications or adjudicate ones that were pending. The agency did not immediately respond to a request clarifying whether the Parole in Place program still applies to spouses.

    “I’m trying my hardest but there is so little I can do,” Busby said. “I just want her out of there.”
     
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    Seek help I'm done proving my point...Trump could come down screw your girl and you'd give an excuse like every other MAGA here...no integrity, no honor...
     
  13. Astrodome

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    Not today, Dre. I don’t have anything nice to say after that football game so I won't say anything.
     
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    The woke d&d posters love fentanyl
    They love it more than Palestine and transgendered kids
     
  15. strosb4bros

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    Why are the feelings of someone enough to supercede the law of countries?

    These hundreds of thousands of "asylum seekers" had a decade to ouster Maduro but never did and now they can cut the line as they wish?

    This implied sense of responsibility that Americans must shoulder every corner of the world's problems aren't working anymore.

    The media's age old trick has been found out.

    Let's say a liberal feels persecuted by Trump -- they can stroll into any country they want, jump the outstanding line and feel their way into citizenship overnight? They don't because America is the place everyone wants to be. And it's that way because of the rule of law.

     
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    I don’t think anyone is disputing that people with final orders of removal have gone through due process.

    The issue is that not everyone ICE acts against falls into that category. There are documented cases involving green card holders and others with lawful status where due process is effectively bypassed, even when judges attempt, and sometimes fail, to halt transfers or deportations.

    On top of that, what we’re seeing here involves both due process failures and clear civil rights violations. U.S. citizens have been wrongfully detained or arrested in these operations. This isn’t hypothetical or rare. There are multiple documented cases, and this is a recurring issue rather than isolated mistakes. Here is a recent example: a U.S. citizen with no criminal record had his door broken down by ICE, was detained at gunpoint without a warrant, and only released after agents later confirmed his citizenship (due process means having a warrant and legal grounds before they arrest you, not checking afterward if they got the right person). DHS then issued a public statement that compounded the harm to the family rather than acknowledging the violation.

    When this keeps happening, it’s no longer credible to dismiss it as simple errors. At minimum, it reflects a systemic failure, and at worst, one driven by direction or incentives coming from the top.

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  18. Corrosion

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    None of that **** has anything to do with what I said:

    Let ICE into jails. Now they can arrest the criminals and just the criminals without any collateral damage.

    I don't comprehend the lefty's shielding criminals from being deported. It seems stupid, especially when it would end most of this "other activity."
     
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  20. Amiga

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    I think your take is factually wrong. Democrats in power have consistently prioritized deporting criminals. Obama and Biden both deported hundreds of thousands, focusing on those with criminal records. No one supports shielding criminals from deportation. I don't know where you get that idea from.

    That said, I have no problem with ICE having full access to jails to detain people with final deportation orders or actual criminal convictions. Some sanctuary policies do limit cooperation, and if ending those policies means ICE can more efficiently arrest actual criminals, fine. But that doesn't solve the problem I'm highlighting - ICE violating the Constitution and due process when they go beyond that.

    So, let's be crystal clear. I have no problem with deporting criminals who've been convicted or have final deportation orders. But I do have a problem with ICE breaking down U.S. citizens' doors without warrants and detaining them at gunpoint. Do you? Is there common ground here, or do you genuinely not care about what you call "collateral damage," which includes citizens' constitutional rights?
     
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