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How Can We Raise The Titanic?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hlmbasketball, Jan 15, 2026 at 9:45 PM.

  1. Aruba77

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    A lot of extreme takes. As if firing the coach is the silver bullet. As if trading all of our assets for Giannis is a silver bullet. Everyone agrees that if we had Fred playing we’d be much better. Why don’t we try to find a player that does some of the things Fred does well. I’m against digging the hole deeper by mortgaging our future for more win-now players. Now if we actually want to evaluate the players we have and make some tough decisions to maximize our future success, I’m all for it. But absent that, let’s work the problem and find someone that can run the floor…maybe also a rim protector. Those are two important skill-sets we don’t have that would help the team on both sides of the ball. But by Feb it’s gonna become clear whether we actually have a chance at contending, even with marginal trades. At that point our calculations should change appropriately.
     
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  2. Dobbizzle

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    At least the new old slow guy is still an absolute monster who can run an offense with so much ease it might make up for the coach being semi r****ded.
     
  3. hlmbasketball

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    Think about it like this. If Sengun is our best player, according to your assessment, how far has he gotten us? And how far do you think he can yake us?

    I keep alluding to the fact that he is a carbon copy of Sabonis; same height, build, playing style, etc. And the furthest Sabonis has gotten is the 2nd rnd of the Playoffs.

    Not just that, I think Sengun needs to be with a coach that fits his style. Ime is a defensive 1st, 2nd and always coach and thats not Sengun.
     
  4. Dobbizzle

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    Who the **** cares what you've been alluding to? Your history of hate towards Sengun is so well documented that no thread you make has any credibility, you do realise that right? You've made any discussion you could ever propose to have worthless because it's already patently clear how biased, idiotic and agenda-filled every single you word you write in relation to him is. It's truly quite remarkable to see somebody spend so much time invalidating any potential future discussion they could ever have, but you have done it, so kudos for that I guess? There's no point addressing your "points" because there's nothing critical, honest or genuine in anything you write about him. And you've backed that up at every occasion.
     
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  5. RocketsFido

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    Only way out of this is to gamble big in the off-season by trading for another superstar. If that fails then blow it up and start over before 2030.
     
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  7. Dobbizzle

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    Yeah I'm ngl, it's been one of them ****in weeks haha, I'm still in the process of deprogramming angry work brain in to chill weekend brain. I hope we win tonight, I could really do with some good **** after a rough week and a rougher one coming after the weekend.
     
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    Figure out how to get Darryn Peterson at all costs
     
  9. hlmbasketball

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    If you get this upset about basketball, I can imagine how you respond to current world affairs.

    In my OPINION, the current roster does not mix. They need to make a trade to shake this up and Jabari, Tari, is not going to do it. And Amen, who I feel is their most complete player, isn't going anywhere, so that leaves Sengun
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I think we lean into the younger guys and tell Durant this is what it is going to be for the next few years.....if he doesn't like it move him.

    DD
     
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    As far as seismic trades go this team needs a Harden type player more than it needs a Giannis type player.

    But as many have correctly pointed out, that type of move is almost entirely off the table.
     
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  12. RB713

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    lol dd would be a good sneak diss rapper.
     
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  13. hlmbasketball

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    Good thought but a 37yr old with a 3yr/$150M contract? Its going to be hard to move. Sengun is a good talent on a good contract.
     
  14. Francis3422

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    I would sign Chris Paul. I know the game is diminished, but I feel like he would bring a certain b****es to practice and I still think he could contribute 10 to 12 minutes a game and bring a certain stability when needed.

    he could replace certain elements of what we lost in trading Brooks.
     
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  15. glimmertwins

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    Making reflexive decisions yield short term results. The road to titles and more specifically multiple opportunities at a title(or even a dynasty), is paved with patience, transparency about issues, and willingness to let teams work through issues with psychological safety. Your team ultimately is not the sum of the individual talent of your players - it's how well your team works together to amplify themselves as a group.

    Reality - hanging with OKC through 3 quarters while short handed was admirable(its probably a significantly more competitive game with Tari/DFS who absolutely would have made a difference last night). We are 6th in the West, every team in front of us has a much harder SoS left, and we got through that brutal road game stretch. That said - Houston has some real work to do on both sides of the ball. KD is an absolute legend - I think he probably still thinks he deserves to be "the man" on the team - but I think Houston has not as a team necessarily meshed KD with the rest of the offense yet...and even bigger than that - I think it's time guys like Alpi and Amen really take ownership of the team away from Durant and it doesn't necessarily have to be a "fight" - but it is going to require the team(Ime included) to grow a pair of balls and believe in a shared vision of the future that isn't dump the ball to the oldest guy on the court to score. Alpi has to be more aggresive, Amen has to be more aggresive, Reed, etc. I think this is the type of pressure that could make diamonds because if you are going to be a "franchise player" you need to take responsibility and lead by example. KD isn't going to give it to any of those guys, but the truth is, they need to be willing to be raw and take the risk to have difficult conversations with a legend like KD because that is what it takes to be the head of a franchise...and I think even KD would respect that. That's why Wemby shaved his head - we need guys willing to own poor play and do what it takes to make the team better and sometimes that's taking heat off the team....and sometimes that's privately pushing guys....and sometimes it's publicly...and sometimes it's even having difficult conversations with the legends in your locker room.

    I think once that happen, I think Stone and team need to make this consolidation trade we have been talking about for years - we really do need to decide who is the best vision of the future moving forward and start to take the team that direction because a team optimized for Amen probably doesn't have Sengun on it if I'm being honest. I don't necessarily think there is pressure to do a big in season trade necessarily but stylistically, a team built around Amen, Sengun, or Reed are the not the same team strictly although there are clearly some fitting pieces on the roster today.

    Ultimately the answer is not "who can we trade to bring a big name in" - it's "how can we repurpose the guys who don't fit our future to find the guys who complement who we have?"
     
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  16. Aruba77

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    I don’t think there’s much of a chance of moving KD, but not because there won’t be takers. If anything his value is higher than when we traded for him because there’s been no drop off in play and he’s on a good contract. KD has two more years at $44 and $46 mil. That’s an excellent contract for an all-nba guy…which KD is. We could get an excellent return for KD. But I think the org is committed to him. We should focus on evaluating our own players and making moves to maximize our chances for next yr and into the future.
     
  17. YaoMac09

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    We’ll end up moving Sengun and Reed for DeRozan and Westbrook.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    If that Titanic is KD, you don't.....you go AVATAR and go against ur own folks.

    It is not worth it to gut the youth for Ime and KD long term.

    Stone and Fertitta have to learn it the hard way, short cuts do not always work out, heck, they rarely do.
     
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  19. Rokman

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    You'll be trading 2's for 3's all night. It's already bad now. This will make it worse.

    It doesn't really matter who you bring in. If your supporting cast can't hit a 3 you're cooked. Rockets went from the best 3 points percentage in the league to what must be dead last. If they get back to the median, which they will, they'll be winning games. Nobody respects their 3ball right now and it's destroying the spacing.
     
  20. Francis3422

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    I am very much here. I don’t expect us to be a top contender but other than Oklahoma City and probably San Antonio. I think we are right there and you never know what’s gonna happen. When you have the chance that we do you have to at least take a stab at it.


    we honestly do have the assets if we want to try to make some sort of large deal, but we could also just to try find some point guard that is efficient.

    I still think our odds of winning a playoff series are to our significantly higher this year
     

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