[NY Post] Trump wants to buy Greenland, again, after claiming US could take back ownership of Panama

Talking about invading the territory of a NATO is pretty insane. I agree. It could destroy NATO. Allies will not be able to trust us. Pure crap as far as foreign policy

 

As others have said....isn't that what Trump wants?

 

I don't know. Trump doesn't even understand what NATO does. Certainly Russia wants that. Maybe Trump wants it for Russia, but invading a NATO ally is a good way to have that happen and give Russia what they want.

 

Don't ever forget these same MAGATs @Bandwagoner @Salvy @Tomstro @Space Ghost spent years posting in the Ukraine thread arguing with me how sending aid to Ukraine was a declaration of ww3 and how we should be spending money at home. Now these losers want to annex European territory.

In my entire adulthood ive never met someone more shameless than a MAGAT

 

Yeah, he's a compelling guy:

John Mac Ghlionn is a psychosocial researcher and essayist. His work has been published, among others, by the New York Post, Sydney Morning Herald, Newsweek, National Review, and The Spectator US. He covers psychology and social relations, and has a keen interest in social dysfunction and media manipulation. Follow him on Twitter, @ghlionn

 

"Oh look, it's the Master Race" -- Mel Gibson, Lethal Weapon 2, when he barges in to the Afrikkaner Consulate office

eta: I was close, but here's the actual clip:

 

That 5 year old mentality orange man didn't even know the name of the leader of the country he wants to invade.

While speaking with reporters at Joint Base Andrews on Tuesday, Jan. 13, Trump was told by one journalist that the premier of Greenland had expressed his island's desire to "stay with Denmark" earlier that day.

“Who said that?" Trump asked. When the reporter repeated, "the premier of Greenland" — referring to Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen — the president replied, "Well, that’s their problem. I disagree with him. I don't know who he is, don’t know anything about him, but that's gonna be a big problem for him.”

https://people.com/donald-trump-reacts-to-greenland-leader-wanting-to-stay-with-denmark-11885212

 

Deb we're in unprecedented times...we need to be vigilant and let mother nature do its thing...if we even have a chance to.




#Winning

 

The Russian collusion is real.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/trump-greenland-risk-global-conflict/685616/

TOM NICHOLS

But a few of Trump’s obsessions are extraordinarily dangerous, and likely none more so than his determination to seize Greenland from Denmark, a country allied to the United States for more than two centuries. Perhaps because he does not understand how the Mercator projection distorts size on a map, the president thinks that Greenland is “massive” and that it must become part of the United States. If Trump makes good on his recurring threat to use force to gain the island, he would not only blow apart America’s most important alliance; he could set in motion a series of events that could lead to global catastrophe—or even to World War III.


Greenland, of course, is important to the security of the United States—as it is to the entire Atlantic community and to the free world itself. This fact might be new to Trump, but Western strategists have known it for a century or more, which is why the United States has had a military presence in Greenland for decades.


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As the American military chases Trump’s ever-changing Sharpie lines across the world’s maps, the West’s enemies will be tempted to take advantage of the fact that the United States has obliterated the most powerful alliance in history while scattering American forces around the globe in showpiece operations that have more to do with Trump’s vanity than with sound strategy. They have surely noticed that the U.S. defense and intelligence services are in the hands of unqualified loyalists, and that so far Trump’s plans for improving the battle readiness of the American military are mostly limited to pictures of make-believe battleships that will never be built.

If NATO collapses because of bullets fired in Greenland, Russian President Vladimir Putin might well assume that he could bury the Atlantic Alliance once and for all by attacking NATO’s Baltic members. As the political scientist Ian Bremmer, who founded the analytical firm Eurasia Group, said on social media this week, “Nobody wants the United States to take control of Greenland (and, accordingly, destroy NATO) more than Putin.” The Russians don’t need to fully occupy Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania; the point would be to start a war aimed at isolating them. (The three countries together are about the size of Wisconsin.) Putin has taken ghastly losses in Ukraine, but he has enough of an army left, backed by drones and other assets, to pummel the Baltic states and grab pieces of territory that may have no strategic value but whose capture would serve to remind the world that the United States—the new masters of Greenland—will not save Europe.

Other nations, however, are unlikely to sit by, especially neighboring NATO countries such as Poland and Finland. Should they come to the aid of their Baltic allies, at least some other European nations would likely support those efforts, and the result would be a broader European conflict involving some of the most militarily capable states in the world. For the first time in almost a century, the continent would be at war, this time one involving multiple nuclear powers. U.S. forces, like it or not, would find themselves in the middle of this bedlam, and with each day of violence the chances would grow of a cataclysmic mistake or miscalculation by any of the combatants.

Meanwhile, a world away from Europe, China might wonder if America has finally tied itself in enough foolish knots to put the conquest of Taiwan within reach, especially with Trump’s “Golden Fleet” nowhere in sight. And although no one should try to predict what North Korea’s bizarre dynasty would do, South Korea and Japan would have to begin planning for the risks that will come during, and after, America’s voluntary strategic immolation, most likely with crash programs to develop nuclear arms.

And all this could happen—for what, exactly? The vainglorious demands of one man who can’t read a map?

Concerned leaders in both parties should explain to the citizens of the United States how much peril Trump is courting. His obsessions could lead not only to the collapse of their standard of living but present a real danger to their lives, no matter where they live. Congress, of course, should have stopped Trump—on this as on so many things—long ago. The Republican majority has the power to put an end to this lunacy by closing its purse strings and passing laws directly forbidding further adventures: Yesterday, Senators Lisa Murkowski and Jeanne Shaheen introduced the NATO Unity Protection Act, which explicitly prohibits using Federal funding “to blockade, occupy, annex or otherwise assert control over the sovereign territory of a NATO member state without that ally’s consent.” This is one case where the MAGA base, which claims to hate foreign adventures, might forgive the GOP for opposing Trump.

Most Americans probably couldn’t care less about Greenland, but they will be forced to care—tragically, too late—if Trump’s gambit engulfs the world in flames.

 

Absolutely vile stuff happening right now.

 

And the thing is, the people running the White House wouldn't know to make these references if they weren't neck deep in neo-Nazi sites, saturated in Neo-Nazi culture, and surrounded by others doing the same. I'm sure they think they are cute making a reference most normies won't get while winking at their fascist friends. It's disgusting. Deplorable even. And it happens repeatedly.

As for current developments regarding Greenland, the European military exercise going on now is not a full-scale war games exercise, but it is a robust planning exercise. They are taking Trump seriously and I suspect they have enough intelligence from this leaky boat of an administration to more than justify that seriousness. This is the first step in the deployment of a larger force.

And of course, we are talking about Greenland instead of Ukraine. We are talking about it in part because a US invasion would end NATO, create a new bloc of countries militarily and economically opposed to us, put our whole European military operation (including bases) at risk, and create a massive amount of instability and suffering globally. Back when Iraq War started, I said on this forum that it was the greatest strategic blunder by a modern president. An invasion of Greenland will beat that by a mile. Make that hundreds of miles.

And it is all part of the national suicide pact we signed in November of 2024, a pact that was obvious at the time. I can't think of any modern precedent of a world power so hell-bent on destroying itself and everything it has built and stood for while so many citizens cheer it on. We intentionally locked ourselves in a political abattoir. I guess you could make the argument for Brexit, but the UK was well into their downward trajectory by then. Maybe Nero watching Rome burn comes close? Maybe.

 

The mysterious 17%. The crazy 4%.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday indicated that just 17% of Americans approve of U.S. efforts to acquire Greenland, compared to 47% who do not approve. Meanwhile, 36% skipped the question.

In the same poll, only 4% overall, including just 8% of Republicans, said it is "a good idea for the U.S. to take Greenland using military force."

Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

Never heard of it.

But I continue to be amazed at how these people treat international diplomacy like a joke. It is completely childish and unworthy of a civilized society, as if they want to return to a pre-Enlightenment age of underdeveloped thinking.

And frankly, if someone is a neo-Nazi, it suggests a serious failure of moral and intellectual development. In that sense, it sadly makes sense that people who embrace such views would behave this way.

 

And yet Trumpsters get offended when making Nazi comparisons