I feel those Memphis guys just need the right coach and the right system. Change of scenery would do them good, I think Marc Gasol also won with Toronto. Too much of a tweener for sure.
He's definitely the best long term big to pair with Sengun for sure. And while pushing KD into a SF role is somewhat awkward short term, I'd still pull the trigger if price is right. JJJ/Sengun/KD/Amen along with Reed or Jabari can definitely compete with anyone in the playoffs. That said, I don't think JJJ is truly available. But the Rockets may go after one of their guards though, like Cam Spencer.
Agreed that he’s soft and doesn’t have a great motor, but he is a perennial DPOY guy who shoots 3’s at above average efficiency. For me it’s the bad contract. Wouldn’t want to be stuck with 4yrs/$200 mil of Triple J.
You guys havent seen his injury history he is as bad as Tari. Also makes the max. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jacksja02.html He misses 20 games a year on average.
You make him sound like some MVP. He’s good but he’s not worth his contract. I specifically remember that game in play in when they played against the warriors to advance. He played like an absolute b**** and probably cost them the game (… dare I say, single-handedly? LOL) He’s a little better than Jabari now but nowhere near to justify that contract. Jabari is actually a better rebounder than this dude who’s got some decent mass on Jabari. That should tell you something.
Before Jabari’s 3 game disaster stretch, he was shooting decently better than JJJ and you were complaining that it’s average and how he needs to shoot above average. But JJJ is above average? Make it make sense.
I really like JJJ as a complementary piece or at best a 3rd star, but being paid like a 1A is a no-go for me. Jabari is a worse version of JJJ, but at half the price, and younger so he's got a chance to get to where JJJ is now at some point in the next year or two.
You can understand why Memphis was forced to grasping at straws like that in a situation where almost nobody wants to be there as Free agent. They draft like really good role players but rarely do they even get somebody as talented as Morant who has fallen off a cliff.
Yeah and I think they extended him to that deal when they had that awesome team a few years ago when Dillon Brooks was there. That team just had grit, and great chemistry. When Ja was Ja before the craziness came out it made sense. They were kind of similar to the Rockets team last year, and it would be like giving Sengun a huge extension because he could walk and the team would have no way to replace him. Everyone would understand why at the time, but in the long run it just didn't work out. That's why you extend these guys as EARLY as you can. One thing I have to say positive about Stone for sure is he's done a good job on the rookie extensions getting deals done early on Jabari and Sengun, and holding firm on Tari which sadly looks like a good bet... as painful as that is to say because I LOVE Tari.
Some players just get worse quickly for whatever reason earlier in their careers. I don't really care to speculate on a player's mental toughness, whether it is injuries, I just know that those players usually don't go back to being consistently good. JJJ had, like, half a season last year of looking back to normal before becoming what he is now... a "good" mid-range shooter who blocks some shots. I say "good" because he makes most of his midrange shots, but I think it is at the expense of getting all the way to the rim for incredibly high-value shots (low-efficiency shots near the rim are still better than high-efficiency shots in mid-range as they go in more often and lead to free throws more often). Also, playing a more finesse game has made him fight for offensive boards less often.
If you are shooting above 36% that’s above average. Last I looked, Bari was shooting 34%, which is decidedly below average. Make sense?
There's also a huge difference between a DPOY-candidate rim protector making 35% of his 3's vs a stretch 4 making 36% of his 3's. It's MUCH more valuable if you can pull the rim protector out. That benefits all 4 players on the court. A stretch 4 making 35-36% is someone you might even risk leaving open in desperate times. Don't like the fit with Sengun and Durant though. Pushes those guys to SF/PF and I don't think they'd be any good at it.
JJJr is who I hoped Jabari might become also hoped he might be like an Orlando Rashard Lewis with better defense but nope
You misunderstood me. I was saying two weeks ago when Jabari was at 38.4% three-point shooting for the season, (but at the time you thought he was at 36%), you were complaining about it and said that it needs to be 38%. Once you realized he was already at 38%, you said that was good and if he can be at 38% at the end of the year you'd be happy. But here JJJ is shooting 36% and you're saying it's above average.. just seems like different shooting average standards , but all good
Bari was drafted to be a shooter. Of course he should be held to a higher standard than JJJ. He needs to shoot well above league average. I believe JJJ shot 37% last year (better than Bari). As @Mathloom pointed out, he’s a perennial DPOY candidate. If Bari becomes a DPOY candidate I’ll be fine if he shoots just league average. As a player drafted for a shooting role (who is far from an all-defense guy), Bari needs to shoot well above league average…and certainly better than JJJ…who btw is shooting better than Bari…again.
