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Was Correa the right player to go over the luxury tax for?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by strosb4bros, Jul 31, 2025.

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Going over lux tax for Correa

  1. Yes, he will make a difference

  2. No, he's a negative WAR player who will take up field space when Paredes returns

  3. No, he won't make enough of a difference

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  1. evilhomer

    evilhomer Member

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    Mr. Carlos Oppenheimer is only 30...he still has a few good years left in him, and the contract is only for 3 years...I can't say I wanted the Astros to do something and then go and complain when they go and do something...
     
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  2. Francis3422

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    Next year we can roll w

    Pena
    Altuve
    Paredes
    Alvarez
    Correa
    Walker
    Sanchez
    Diaz
    Myers
    Someone

    that seems like that has very very high potential
     
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  3. cbass

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    Where’s Cam?
     
  4. raining threes

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    I guess that's someone. LOL
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Why wouldn't you have him in RF?
     
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  6. Coastal

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    I took "making enough of a difference" to mean contributing to a deep playoff run. So I voted that he wouldn't make enough of a difference, but not because it's Correa. I just felt that going into the deadline their biggest need was a starter. That turned out to be too hard to get. Correa will help them hold their lead in the division, but won't turn them into a contender. Hope I'm wrong.
     
  7. solid

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    I don't know. He didn't set the woods on fire in Minney. Big question mark. Maybe home cooking will make a difference.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    He did last year, while he was healthy. Not so much this year. Who knows what we'll get, other than happy clubhouse vibes?

     
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  9. Wulaw Horn

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    One of my favorite things about early season games in mlb is watching the Latin players in the north east and places like MN dressed up like they are voyaging to the North Pole or attacking the summit in Mt Everest.
    I think it’s possible weather related the slow start to Correas season.
    Btw, there is an entire league wide effect to this because of the physics of it all, but I bet that hits harder in MN than anywhere else.
     
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  10. Buck Turgidson

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    You'll see it again soon, since MLB lets the Postseason run into November
     
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  11. Astrodome

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    Looks like he can still barrel.
     
  12. OremLK

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    I'm going to bet he's not done, just having a down year. He's only 30, and this is baseball we're talking about. Last season he was still a really, really good player.

    Happy to have him reunite with Altuve in any case
     
  13. Wulaw Horn

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    It’s not as funny then. It’s dumb.
     
  14. strosb4bros

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    Yet, as usual, I nailed it. I'm not looking for consensus, that's not how you win titles in a competitive league.

    6 HR, 21 RBI and 45 SO in 2 months with the Stros while missing the playoffs for the first time in 8 years.

    Pushed into the luxury tax so the Stros will have to choose between better players in Paredes or Pena because of his contract - as well as missing out on signing the talented SP they need.

    Organizational culture is downstream and mistakes compound.
     
  15. IdStrosfan

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    The small and narrow sample stats used in your point make it meaningless.

    Not only are HR, RBI and K's very narrow i n determining value but every year knowledgeable people think less and less of them.

    Why didn't you reference his batting average?

    The truth is he played 51 of 53 games (and 1 of those missed was the final game of the year after they were eliminated) when the team had terrible injury issues and he lead the team in wRC+, 22% above MLB average, and was 2nd on the team to Pena in WAR with 1.5 which is a pace for 4.6

    Thats an All-Star performance.

    Edit: OK, HR are probably looked at as more important than ever but RBI and K's are pretty much ignored by most organizations when determining value of a player.
     
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  16. raining threes

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    I can see why Crane traded for Correa at the cost they paid for him.

    With that said, at this point in Correa's career he's a very good player but not the superstar player many predicted he would be. Although they're much different players Parades and Correa have comparable values as players.
     
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  17. strosb4bros

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    I intentionally kept out stats because that clouds the cost benefit analysis. That analysis has to center around having limited revenue that can't hand out contracts to everyone. Is it worth having a marginally positive player when you lose a brighter, younger option in Paredes or Pena as a result? At some point the Stros have to lock in marquee talent. You're also pushed over the luxury tax earlier than expected so you have concurrent year penalties to think about.

    Ultimately, we were stacked in the infield with quality at Correa's position and really struggling with SP and outfielders. Did Correa's contract impact the ability to resign Valdez, who has done nothing but perform consistently and stay healthy the past 4 seasons?

    Does Correa's $22 million affect the Astros ability to resign Imai if he has a good season? Otherwise he bolts immediately.

    All signs indicate a panic decision that the fans wouldn't protest to because of nostalgia - but nostalgia doesn't win you pennants. Forward thinking does.
     
  18. Hemingway

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    Really silly argument. Correa is a good bat and fielder that lengthens our lineup and we got him at a bargain basement price. It’s not forcing us to move Pena or Paredes who are unlikely to be moved. It had no effect on re-signing Framber, who is going to get more years and money than Crane would ever think about paying him. If the market doesn’t materialize, we might still sign him. If Crane was worried about the luxury tax implications, he wouldn’t have signed him. Go back to critiquing the attractiveness of women that would never give you the time of day.
     
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  19. strosb4bros

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    He's averaging 2 WAR / season for the past 3 seasons. It's only "bargain basement" if you include what he did on his first stint with the Stros, not recent history. Add that to being in a position of surplus with contract extensions for the younger players coming up. If you want your homer nostalgia to blind you, go ahead.

    I have no problems bumping this thread every 6 months.
     
  20. Hemingway

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    Carlos put up 4.3 War in 2024 in just 84 games. In 2025, he put up 2.6 after a bad start. He is projected to put up 3.7 in 26. I guess you would rather have the likes of Dubon, Brendon Rodger’s, or Guillorme getting those bats instead. Not to mention what a great 3b he is.
     

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