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2025 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2025.

  1. BlindHog

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    I would go after Lars Nootbaar for his 80 grade name alone.
     
  2. IdStrosfan

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    I think Nootbar would be a great fit, but he is bound to be very expensive.
     
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  3. raining threes

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    Maybe not too expensive with his foot problems.
     
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  4. Jeremy Williams

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    If some combination of Altuve, Alvarez, Cole, Smith, Meyers, Dezenzo, Sanchez cover OF all season, do you feel any of these additions really make sense?
     
  5. IdStrosfan

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    The key here is actually playing Yordan in LF.

    If Espada starts Yordan in LF 50+ games ( and ideally 80+) then fine.

    If Yordan plays 40- games in LF then another LH hitting OF is needed.

    And even then, it is quite easy to upgrade Sanchez

    Cole is far from proven, and all 4 Fangraphs projections have him significantly below. 700 OPS.

    If he needs to go back to AAA and Meyers reverts back to his feeble bat vs RHP this OF is in trouble.
     
  6. Jeremy Williams

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    I agree it is a big risk, but I think if is one the Astros have to take. They have too many inexpensive MLB-ready OF guys on the 40. And they have little space below the CBT.
     
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  7. Snake Diggit

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    No. If they think they can get 7+ war out of the non-Alvarez/Altuve OF then they shouldn’t add another bat. But that would require those guys exceeding their projections.
     
  8. IdStrosfan

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    If they play everyday I expect Cam and Jake to combine for 5 WAR and there is a world where they get 7 by themselves. Defense and baserunning gives them both a very high floor.

    I would say Meyers' floor is 1.5 and ceiling is 3.0 while Cam' floor is 1.5 and ceiling (2026) is 4.0

    The problem is that everyone else (outside of Yordan and Altuve) has potential for negative WAR.

    And how much playing time does Cole, Sanchez, and Dezenzo take from them.
     
  9. Jeremy Williams

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    i think the non-Alvarez/Altuve combo will likely account for 100 games of LF.
     
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  10. raining threes

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    You really are a Jake fan.
     
  11. IdStrosfan

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    I don't consider myself a Jake fan. I literally just said he has a 3.0 WAR ceiling.

    However, I do think the majority of fans underappreciate and under value him.

    He was on pace for 4.3 WAR when he injured his calf last year, playing 88 of 90 games and completely stabilizing the OF defense flanked by 2 players who had never played the OF before.

    He may have been my team MVP at that point.

    He has averaged 2.5 WAR per 500 PAs in his career and has as high as floor as anyone on this team.

    Still, I think last year was his best and would love Cole to come in and take the job from him because it will take a ROY type season to do that.
     
  12. Snake Diggit

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    Now that the Sox missed out on Breggy:

    Astros get:
    OF Jarren Duran
    1B Triston Casas

    Red Sox get:
    3B Isaac Paredes
    RP Bryan Abreu

    Sox get a star 3B and an elite rental setup man. Astros get a controllable potential star CF and a controllable potential everyday 1B, both lefty hitters that balance their lineup. Resulting roster:

    LF Duran
    SS Pena
    DH Alvarez
    3B Correa
    2B Altuve
    1B Walker
    RF Sanchez
    C Diaz
    CF Meyers
    Bench: Matthews, Allen, Salazar, Casas
    SP: Brown, Imai, Javier, Burrows, Arrighetti, Weiss
    RP: Hader, King, Okert, Pearson, McCullers, De Los Santos, Munoz
     
  13. Jeremy Williams

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    in both the short and long-term I see acquiring a LF as being detrimental to this team as they attempt to find space for an aging Altuve and an ailing Alvarez.
     
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    Triston Casas is LH Tyler White
     
  15. Snake Diggit

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    Duran can play CF.
     
  16. Snake Diggit

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    Nah.

    Tyler White career wRC+: 98
    Triston Casas career wRC+: 119

    Casas is more like Brandon Belt. A very good lefty hitter at 1B who gets hurt a lot.
     
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    I take this one back, this is not a good deal for the Astros. I’d rather see something like:

    Astros get:
    CF Jarren Duran
    IF Boston Baro (NYM #21 prospect)

    Red Sox get:
    3B Isaac Paredes
    P Jonathan Santucci (NYM #14 prospect)

    Mets get:
    CF Jake Meyers

    That opens up CF for Duran and clears ~$5M net payroll for Houston, plus adds a solid IF prospect to the AA roster. The trade makes more sense for Boston this way too. It’s possible Houston would have enough money to add a valuable bat who could technically be a bench player but would play most days, somebody like Luis Arraez or Willi Castro.

    Resulting position player roster:
    CF Duran
    SS Pena
    DH Alvarez
    3B Correa
    2B Altuve
    1B Walker
    RF Sanchez
    C Diaz
    LF Cole
    Bench: Matthews, Salazar, Allen, Arraez
    Optioned: Smith, Whitcomb, Dezenzo
     
  18. Jeremy Williams

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    The Astros would then need to move Meyers and Cole.
     
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    This makes more sense, but the IF would be backed up largely by Nick Allen.
    Given the age/injury likelihood of Correa and Altuve, I prefer keeping Paredes.
     
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  20. Snake Diggit

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    Matthews can play 2B and 3B. One secondary upside to trading Paredes would be to create an opportunity for Matthews to get established in the majors. With Correa able to play SS, Matthews could effectively serve as the backup at every position except 1B and C.
     
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