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We Should All Be Concerned About ICE Murdering a Citizen in Minneapolis

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Jan 8, 2026 at 7:56 AM.

  1. Two Sandwiches

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    First of all, let's get this out of the way. In the last year, I changed my voter registration to Republican. Not because I like Trump (I don't), but more because I am pretty much split down the middle, and in my state, I can only vote in primaries of the party I am registered to. As an independent, I can't vote in primaries. Dumb rule, I know. I'm also sick of the pussification of America being driven by the Democrats. Now, let's move on to why we should all be concerned.


    Yesterday's shooting was deeply concerning. ICEs mission, by and large, is noble. It's a decent idea, but like everything Trump touches, the execution is sloppy and horribly thought out. Illegals that are committing crimes should get the hell out of the country. Illegals that are here for a better life and to be a law abiding potential citizen should be welcomed with open arms. That's what this country was built on.

    If I were President, I would propose that any crime committed by an illegal carries an automatic multiplier of doubling the sentence of that crime. Upon serving the time, you'd be deported back to your home country. If you ever commit a felony after that in the US, as an illegal, it's an automatic life sentence, no matter what the felony is. Problem solved. ICE not needed.

    Instead you have these thugs on the street that don't know the local laws, are instigating violence, and perpetuating a disdain for anyone in a uniform. Are they even properly vetted, psychologically before being put on the street?

    Onto yesterday's murder. The agent clearly could have avoided the situation. He escalated something that didn't need to be escalated. The ultimate escalation. Now there are witnesses saying some ICE agents were telling her to leave, and some were telling her to get out of the car. Obviously she would choose to leave. Also, it goes without saying, that if you want to avoid this kind of stuff, don't interject yourself into the situation. That can be said for the ICE agents, and the victim.

    What's deeply disturbing to me is the agenda that the government is pushing. The same exact people saying Ashley Babbitt didn't deserve to die, and issuing parsons to true domestic terrorists that stormed one of our most sacred buildings while threatening to hand the vice president and some senators, are calling this woman a domestic terrorist. That's disturbing to me. That's pushing an agenda, and it's straight out of a Putin/Hitler/any evil dictator playbook. The fact that they are doubling down when the video shows something else is even more disturbing.

    The next thing that is disturbing is the mindless drones only showing one video angle to try and convince the masses (other mindless drones) that this woman was deranged and evil. The video I'm talking about is the grainy one from far away.

    The final disturbing thought,and the one that really bothers me. With this kind of rhetoric, and the amount of people that refuse to be subjective, coupled with technology, how long before the actual videos are quickly scrubbed and then replaced by the official government narrative showing the woman running down the agent? I don't think it's that far off. Chew on that for a while.


    "The ice agent was treated and release from the hospital and is expected to make a full recovery."

    Are you kidding me? That's the response? Just goes to show you that we all need to be skeptical of any government narrative.

    If Democrats were in office, the same people helping the government to push the narrative right now would be storming the Capitol again, the Democratic drones would be doing the same as the current Republican drones on social media, while the quiet minority of decent citizens would be questioning everything. We should all strive to be in that quiet minority.



    A couple fun facts:
    - Some studies show that almost 74% of those detained by ICE have no criminal record.
    https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/

    -The cop shot two shots (which were likely the kill shots) with his gun within a foot of the driver's side window. The equivalent of how close you are when you are handed your drive through order. Maybe closer.
     
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  2. SamFisher

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    The reason why we get armed ICE thug CoD cosplayers shooting mothers in the face with no remorse can be directly traced to dudes railing online about "the pussification of America" by unspecified Democrats

    Look inwards
     
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  3. Two Sandwiches

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    I get your point. As I said, I stand in the middle ground.

    I am not the one calling for ICE to be in these cities, and I would never be the one to want to be a part of that. Not in a million years.

    I just don't want my kids to think that changing sexes is a normal thing. I don't really even want my kids to get a participation trophy, if I'm honest, but I will gladly let them have it. Especially while they're younger.

    But that's for a different thread.
     
  4. Andre0087

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    That's one of your major reasons for being on the fence? I agree it isn't normal but it wouldn't make me go out and vote Republican all of a sudden. Just look at the shitshow we're in now and it hasn't even been a full year.
     
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    “You karate guess so…squished like grape”. Bwahahaha!
     
  6. Reeko

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    trans hysteria has gotta be studied

    If your kid knows that some people change sexes, then what? They’re gonna want to become trans all of the sudden?

    Are trans people even 1% of the total population?

    republicans make a 10x bigger deal about trans than any Democrat
     
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  7. Two Sandwiches

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    Nah, I'm just on the fence in general. Typically conservative more financially and judiciously, more liberal when it comes to social issues (believe it or not lol)
     
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    3.3% of those 13-17, and 2.7% of those that are (18-24).* Rates drop off dramatically after the brain is fully developed, ironically.


    *Per a quick Google search.



    But that's neither here nor there. Different thread, as I said.


    I'm on your side (as everyone should be) in this one.

    Also, I did not vote for Trump.
     
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  9. Amiga

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    When you campaign on deporting over 10 million people, you aren’t just deporting criminals. ICE or the military - it will happen one way or another. The original idea was to use the U.S. military to carry out these deportations, but Trump and Republicans in Congress didn’t have to go that far - they were able to allocate nearly $100 billion to ICE (basically your homeland military). What we see now, ICE acting as a menace to society, sadly is just the start. If you haven’t noticed, they are advertising everywhere for more ICE agents and are dangling very generous bonuses to get them hired.

    Probably the best way to keep ICE in check is for the House to go Democratic next year. The courts have checked them, but the process is slow.

    So if this is concerning, vote for representation that actually stands up to ICE and their menace.
     
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  10. Two Sandwiches

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    It's definitely a concern, and will definitely enter my consideration for voting.

    I am just as likely to vote Democrat vs Republican in the near future. Probably more likely to vote Democrats at midterms, to be honest.
     
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  11. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    I smell bullshiit.
     
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    Lower qualifications, reduce training, recruit on white supremacist and gun nut web sites with Nazi imagery (and fonts), hire a bunch of people fast, and put the latest weapons and gear in their hands. Of course they will disrupt schools and churches and courtrooms. Of course they will kill Americans and immigrants alike. Of course they will prevent a nearby physician from rendering aid to someone they shot. Of course they will block an ambulance from accessing the scene. Of course they will terrorize communities. Of course they will create fear of the government. That's the whole point.

    Here's a principal at a Minneapolis high school:

    The guy, I’m telling him like, "Please step off the school grounds," and this dude comes up and bumps into me and then tells me that I pushed him, and he knocked me down. They don’t care. They’re just animals. I’ve never seen people behave like this.

    Now, all Minneapolis schools are closed. Not because of COVID or the flu but because of the terror created by our federal government. I'm sure our anti-mask warriors who were once so concerned about children's education are all over this.

    I'll note that the VP made a statement about the murder saying that the administration stands behind ICE. He pointedly did not include the American people because we all know how deeply unpopular this all is. Yet they continue to escalate.
     
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  13. Rocket River

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    10000x times bigger deal
    ICE is a way to pay those Rioters, unemployed unqualified Klansmen and Proud boys and justify their brutal bigotry with Government funds.
    It is basically the Governmental approve Klu Klux Klan.

    Rocket River
     
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    LOL. He obvious is not a minority in this country. . . .esp not a poor minority
    That kind of behavior is just called a regular Tuesday

    Rocket River
     
  15. Two Sandwiches

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    Perhaps you didn't wipe well enough?
     
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    The unnecessary murder of a citizen by a state agent is exactly what conservatism is supposed to be against. Look at the main thread for reactions from "conservatives" who are downright gleeful that this woman died, that the masked agent is unidentifiable, and that the president of the United States is calling her a "terrorist", rendering that word totally meaningless. If nothing else, it shows that "conservative" is just a cultural identifier now instead of a principled position because a lot of what we see would make Ronald Reagan lose his mind.

    It should come as no surprise that the people cheering on this murder and the party line have also shrugged off any concerns about ICE arresting citizens as a "cost of doing business". A true conservative would be aghast at that, but to them it's all worth it to round up some folks and send them to South Sudan or a torture prison in El Salvador. They're indulging in sadism because they think "the left" has flooded this country with illegal immigrants as if conservative business owners in construction, farming, meat production, hospitality, and restaurants haven't encouraged cheap and unaccountable illegal labor for decades.

    I do not think that people who enter this country illegally have a right to be here. I'd get thrown out of Germany if I tried to overstay my tourist visa even though I have family there. But, I am not interested in being lectured to about immigration by people who have been hostile to any reform for nearly 20 years and cannot articulate what our current, or past, immigration system looks like.
     
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    I am not concerned. I am furious. These dumb bastards had no reason to be there in the first place.
     
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    A commercial real estate agent in Baton Rouge said several of his tenants are requesting temporary rent relief, warning they may have to close if their requests aren’t granted. Business has dried up as customers avoid the area due to increased ICE activity, creating both financial strain and disruption for small businesses. Many communities are suffering because ICE actions are a menace to local residents. What you see on TV and social media - protests or occasional ICE raids - is only part of the story; the quieter, everyday impact is much larger. And no, this isn’t just about people who are “illegal.” Citizens, especially Hispanics, avoid the area to reduce the risk of being caught up simply because ICE targets someone and assumes they should be deported.

    I remember when Republicans were pro–small business and supportive of local communities. Now, it’s the big, ugly federal government looming over them.
     
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    Yeah it's pretty funny actually. The "dont tread on me" crowd and 2nd amendment-ers who insist they need their guns to resist tyranny have been the biggest supporters of this tyrannical regime.
     
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    I’m just stopping by here because I’ve seen I’ve been mentioned a few times regarding Minnesota. Yes I still live in Minnesota and only about a mile and half away from where Renee Good was killed.

    Things are very on edge here in this city. As tense as they were when George Floyd was killed. As with then I am not planning on leaving or abandoning my neighborhood. The people in my neighborhood are scared and have been scared. Many of them have been unfairly targeted on blanket suspicion just based on where they or their parents came from and how they look. I myself have been warned not to go out on when ICE is around and even been threatened to have ICE sent after me. I am not going to stay in my house and hide. I am an American citizen and I didn’t hide when my neighborhood was being looted and burned and won’t hide when it is being intimidated by the Federal Government.

    On the horrific shooting of Renee Good I am not here for a long debate about it. I will say this if DHS and this administration are serious about the truth they would call for an open and independent investigation. They would be releasing body cam dashboard video and other information. It is telling that instead they rushed out a narrative that this was “domestic terrorism”.

    On the “Somali fraud” yes it happened. No one is denying it did or saying it shouldn’t be prosecuted. The perpetrators though were only a few out of the whole Somali community. The person who masterminded the fraud is also a white woman named Aimee Bock. Collectively holding all Somali Americans responsible is the type of bigotry that led to the interning of Japanese Americans during WWII and worse.

    While the fraud did happen it was the Tim Walz state government that investigated and prosecuted it long before this became national news. I myself did not think Tim Walz should run for reelection and said so weeks ago. There is no proof that he bears any direct responsibility for it.

    These are again difficult times for the city of Minneapolis it is not getting easier with misleading attacks and pressure from outside. This city came through what happened six years ago and will again. What many don’t realize from six years ago was that after every night of rioting thousands came out to clean up. Food shelves were overflowing with food and charities were inundated with donations. For as divided this city and state was many still came together. That will happen again during this crisis.
     

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