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USA declares war on Venezuela

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 23, 2025.

  1. MadMax

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    Must be Italian
     
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  2. Amiga

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    The concerning part is how enthusiastic the President seems about this military operation. The risk is that once the initial satisfaction fades and he realizes Maduro's capture hasn't fundamentally changed the situation in Venezuela, we could see him authorize larger and riskier military interventions to achieve his desire to control Venezuela and take its oil.

    The massive military buildup on the Venezuelan border gives Trump the option of going to plan Z - a full-scale invasion and military takeover.

    Whether Trump has an appetite for that depends on whether he can control Venezuelan oil through a "puppet" government. That could include even a fairly elected democratic government, as long as it's compliant.

    If no government can be controlled (including a democratically elected one) he would take the larger and riskier military intervention to achieve his goal: controlling Venezuela and taking its oil.

    See his threats toward Greenland as an example of these bullying tactics in action.

    This is the Trump Doctrine in practice: a return to pre-WWI imperialism where powerful nations simply take what they want from weaker ones, exactly the system the post-WWII order was designed to prevent.
     
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  3. Commodore

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    [Politico] 1 in 3 Americans supports US ousting Maduro, per new poll

    Per a Reuters poll

    That's a pretty disasterous number for less than a week after a huge made-for-TV operational success. Those numbers are going to bottom out as the reality sets in and we get videos that aren't Trump doing a victory dance or bombs going off or whatever nationalism dopamine fix is most current.

    28% support from independents 11% among Dems, 66% among Republicans.

    This entire operation appears to have just been Trump trying to fix his poll numbers (oil companies want nothing to do with Venezuelan oil) and it looks like it will end up having the opposite effect. Trump is cooked once we get the midterms.
     
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    Trump:

    "This Oil will be sold at its Market Price, and that money will be controlled by me, as President of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States!”

    All it takes is 3-4 Republican congressmen to put a stop to all this, but they are all cowards.
     
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    the one issue I have with stating poll numbers in association with the Trumpster is, he does not care.
    He is lame duck, and Trump does not care what happens or who follows him after he heads back to Mar-A-Logo.
    This dude is scorched earth while he is in office and damned be the person behind him that needs to clean up his mess.

    some may see it differently than I do. But this is truly what i believe.
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    He's been talking lately about getting impeached again if/when he gets blown out in the midterms and he seem to care a bunch about that. As he goes, so goes the votes for his party down the ticket.



    I've seen one or two other recient clips of him complaining about how no matter what he does his poll numbers suck, so I think an egomaniac like him cares at least a little bit.
     
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  8. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Hey woke zombies, it’s always about these Chinese communist bastards!
     
  9. astros123

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    You MAGATs just pardoned one of the most notorious drug bosses of our lifetime who literally used the country of hondorus to smuggle thousands of kilos of cocaine lol and you people are still cosplaying about drugs.

    MAGA demand that you dont use your brain and blindly eat up their propoganda
     
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  10. The Captain

    The Captain ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    "They're mean" lol
     
  11. No Worries

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    What is 400 tons of cocaine between the 1% Bros? Just a drop in the bucket, if you think about it!
     
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    I don't think he cares about the polls, he knows he will be a lame duck after midterms and he is going at mach speed to get everything done that he wants. Typically, the outgoing Prez wants to have goodwill toward the party so the newcomer doesn't have to follow **** like this, but tramp does not care.....................he`s grifting at warp speed and now his Citgo donor will get the Oil and tramp will get his cut

    Personally, I am glad Madero is out but the way we did it was not right, you don't go into a Sovereign country and take its leader.........this was always about the Oil and a bully who loves to use the Military as his play toy. Rubio will be happy cause Cuba is F***** with no Venezuelan Oil, Russia will be hurting to

    The days of the USA being the GOLD standard are done, we are now simply the Bully who will take what we want and scare the hell out of everyone else.
     
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  13. Rocket River

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    Definitions are moving targets nowadays

    Rocket River
     
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    I have active duty throughout my family and spent 4 years with USACE. There's a mentality that all those who succeed and thrive have, and it's about putting country above self , unit cohesion above emotion. The alcoholic mentality of me-me-me doesn't make it.

    Thank you for your service and remaining impartial while on active duty. But I do fear you've gone down the rabbit hole of TDS without understanding that it's the far left turn of democrats that created Trump and this hostile situation. For all his flaws, Trump is a return to normalcy after the dark road the Biden administration went down with regards to basic law enforcement, identity politics, DEI, pandering to Iran (lifted sanctions the day Biden voted in office, strengthening jihad regime and arming Hamas) and outright anti-America pro everyone else attitudes. The Somali fraud case is the backbone of the democrat welfare apparatus but for some reason that doesn't bother you.

    The angrier you get because you can't see this, the more right the country shifts and look past real issues like healthcare affordability for the middle class.

    When trump makes decisions like this, it's thinking ahead of the crowd. He's not beholden to one ideology or a puppet of invisible bureacrats, he zigs and he zags based on what works. Venezuela is completely different to the Middle East and anyone who tries to make parallels is fear mongering for political points.
     
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    Imagine saying with a straight face that biden focused on other people other than americans at the same time Trump gave Argentina 40 billion dollars while doubling Healthcare premiums for 30 million Americans lmao.
     
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  16. MadMax

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    My,favorite part was the notion that Donald Trump give a a **** about healthcare. Still waiting on his new plan since about 2016.
     
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    The funniest **** is when they @strosb4bros claim Trump isnt a puppet to the deep state lmao. Dude is selling bribes and favors on the open market to the highest bidder and they still cosplay that hes fighting the deep state



    Every day theres a new corruption story where you just get numb to it now
     
  18. deb4rockets

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    Dude, I'm not the delusional one. You just can't see the corruption and self-serving Bribe Taker in Chief Corrupt Criminal for who he is. Everything comes back to him or his family one way or another. You can choose to believe a pathological liar. That's your choice. But spare me with your assessment of me because I don't believe or trust pathological liars.
     
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    100%
     
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  20. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Breh, this chic Deb is truly a disturbed Trump hater. No need to thank her for her fake service or anything else. She’s along with countless other idiots in here that like fake news astro123 are a bunch of liars who also have a serious case of TDS.
     

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