FIRE Nick Caley Thread

Indeed…. It’s just not standard practice to pair a first-time play-calling coordinator with a young QB.

I would be thrilled to see the litany of examples in history where this worked out in the NFL. My guess is there is maybe 1 or 2 specific cases out there over the last 20-30 years, and the only one that’s specifically coming to mind is the MIke Martz-Warner combo from 1999.

 

I'd have been happy with a Mike McCarthy hiring, & that type. That's like "exactly" what the team needed. I think Chip Kelly would have worked out better with the Texans than Raiders. Raiders got better on D with Carroll, but just dont have anything on offense past Bowers.

People said that Demeco didn't want to be "threatened" by an experienced coach. I sure hope that's not the case lol, or this franchise isn't for real

 

Kelly was earning $6M as OC in Vegas; Cap was making $M 6M as HC in Htine]

Edit: some sources say Cap got humped to $8M

 

if McDaniels wants to be DeMeco's OC, fire Caley!

 

Seems like the perfect hire if the offense fizzle again in the playoffs.

 

Not a very smart idea, you want CJ to start over with a new OC yet again?

 

Yes? The offense is garbage lol, why keep it around?

If we lose in the playoffs because we can't score more than 14 points then Caley should be fired.

I would hire Mike in a minute. I love coordinators that have experience being a head coach and he seems to be pretty creative and thinks outside of the box which is what we need. We need someone that isn't so stubborn doing the same thing over and over, someone that looks at a player like Woody Marks and goes "Gee, this guy can really catch the ball, lets try to get him involved in more passing plays." instead of running him up the middle all game long like they didn't just draft one of the best receiving backs in some time.

 

You could also argue it is not very smart to continue with a failure like Caley.

 

I’m definitely on board but that probably means we lose in the Wild Card or maybe divisional round again.

 

Slowik was McDaniels passing game coordinator this season. Does slowik get to come back as passing game coordinator under OC McDaniel? Thats seems like it would be very akward.

 

Obviously not.

 

Who says no if McDaniel says he wants Slowik on his staff? Caserio or Slowik?

 

Here comes all of the WCO guys.

Caley has done a good job this yr considering the OL issues that have been somewhat fixed and the lack of Mixon or a blocking TE. The team won 12 games with Marks as a full time RB and probably would've won 2-3 more if Mixon could've played but yeah lets fire Caley and give CJ 3 new OC's in 3 yrs. (Brilliance)

 

[Wilson] Texans QB C.J. Stroud on OC Nick Caley, 'have a lot of love for that guy, has done a heck of a job for us' notes how people are in a 'microwave' expectation, but football is a 'crockpot'

 

Grok…is football a microwave or crockpot?

 

He won't bother asking.

 

The Texans have literally improved every possible offensive metric* from last year - + won 2 more games - and...... Caley is a "failure"?

* except running & red zone, and there's a pretty obvious reason.

 

The offense is.... "garbage"? That seems a bit... extreme.

It's obviously possible the texans only score 14 and lose. But they haven't scored less than 20 points since November 16, and it hasn't happened with a fully healthy Stroud since Oct 20 v Seattle.

Since Stroud came back, they've been averaging 26.8 points/game.

I would've been THRILLED if McDaniel became available last offseason - he's exactly what I thought (and still think) this team needs: a head coach for the offense.

I have no idea what goes on with the team, obviously - but if Woody Mark is not being deployed as a receiver........ there's probably a fairly logical explanation - unless you think, collectively, Caserio, Ryans and Caley + every other member of the team - is just brain-dead stupid?

 

Maybe they scouted and traded up for him without knowing he could catch? Then he caught a couple of unexpected nifty passes in a game while the coaches weren’t paying attention that only a few fans noticed? Then the tape probably malfunctioned right at those particular points in the game (or the video guy was asleep) so no one saw it happen during film study?

 

Garbage QB, garbage offense still garbage.

Talking point before today was “You really want to give Stroud another OC?!”. Oops lol

9 points (3 Ka’imi field goals)
19 points (2 offensive TDs [1 Stroud pass, 1 Chubb rush]; 2 Ka’imi field goals)
10 points (1 offensive TD [Stroud pass]; 1 Ka’imi field goal)
26 points (3 offensive TDs [2 Stroud pass, 1 Woody rush]; 2 Ka’imi field goals)
44 points (5 offensive TDs [4 Stroud pass, 1 Chubb rush]; 3 Ka’imi field goals)
19 points (1 offensive TD [1 Stroud pass]; 1 defensive TD; 2 Ka’imi field goals)
26 points (2 offensive TDs [2 Stroud pass]; 4 Ka’imi field goals
15 points (5 Ka’imi field goals)
36 points (4 offensive TDs [2 Mills pass, 1 Mills rush,1 Woody rush]; 1 defensive TD; 1 Matthew Wright field goal)
16 points (1 offensive TD [1 Mills pass]; 3 Matthew Wright field goals)
23 points (2 offensive TDs [2 Mills pass]; 3 Ka’imi field goals)
20 points (2 offensive TDs [1 Chubb rush, 1 Nico rush]; 2 Ka’imi field goals
20 points (2 offensive TDs [1 Stroud pass, 1 Dare rush]; 2 Ka’imi field goals
40 points (4 offensive TDs [3 Stroud pass, 1 Woody fumble return]; 4 Ka’imi field goals
23 points (1 offensive TD [1 Stroud pass]; 1 defensive TD; 3 Ka’imi field goals
20 points (2 offensive TDs [2 Stroud pass]; 2 Ka’imi field goals
38 points (2 offensive TDs [1 Stroud pass, 1 Stroud rush]; 1 defensive TD; 6 Ka’imi field goals

Playoffs
30 points (2 offensive TDs [1 Stroud pass, 1 Woody rush]; 2 defensive TDs; 1 Ka’imi field goal
16 points (1 offensive TD [Stroud pass], 3 Ka’imi field goals
46 points, 3 offensive TDs, 2 defensive TDs, 4 Ka’imi field goals

They’re good for two touchdowns and a bunch of Ka’imi field goals. … “Well yeah, 20 points, with this defense, that’s good enough!” So just say that then? Don’t say this is a “good” offense, “offense is clicking”, “firing on all cylinders”, “one of the better offenses since week whatever”. The **** they are.

Oh wow! 26 against the hapless t*** who fired their coach.
Oh wow! 44 against the depleted Ravens who fired their coach.
Oh wow! 40 against the Cardinals who fired their coach!

9 points against the Rams.
10 points with Stroud against those Jaguars.
4 field goals against the 49ers.
1 TD against the Seahawks.
5 field goals against the Broncos.
3 field goals against the Bills.
2 field goals against the Chargers.

2025-2024-2023
PTS: 404(13th) | 372(19th) | 377(13th)
PPG: 23.8(13th) | 21.9(19th) | 22.2(13th)
YDS: 5559(18th) | 5435(22nd) | 5820(12th)
Y/G: 327.0(18th) | 319.7(22nd) | 342.4(12th)
Y/P: 5.1 | 5.1 | 5.4
PYards: 3707(14th) | 3526(21st) | 4173(7th)
PY/G: 218.1(14th) | 207.4(21st) | 245.5(7th)
PY/A: 6.0(17th) | 5.7(26th) | 6.5(8th)
RYards: 1852(22nd) | 1909(15th) | 1647(22nd)
RY/G: 108.9(22nd) | 112.3(15th) | 96.9(22nd)
RY/A: 3.9(29th) | 4.4(15th) | 3.7(29th)
TO: 12 | 19 | 14
1D: 323(20th) | 308(25th) | 329(15th)
3D%: 37.2(23rd) | 37.7(20th) | 37.9(19th)
4D%: 57.9(16th) | 61.1(11th) | 38.1(30th)
RZ%: 46.3(30th) | 49.1(26th) | 54.7(16th)
Scoring%: 42.9(11th) | 36.8(19th) | 37.2(13th)
Sacks: 31(9th fewest) | 54(3rd most) | 47(10th most)
Average Drive:
•Start: Own 32.5(2nd) | Own 31.8(4th) | Own 27.1(27th)
•Time: 2:50(19th) | 2:43(22nd) | 2:39(21st)
•Plays: 5.97(19th) | 5.70(28th) | 5.87(16th)
•Net Yards/Drive: 29.0(27th) | 28.1(25th) | 30.4(13th)

Everyone: We know the Texans have a SB quality defense. So what’s stopping them from making a deep playoff run?
Also everyone: Their offense is not good enough.

Brian Daboll
Mike McDaniel
Mike McCarthy
Todd Monken
Kliff Kingsbury

“Let’s run it back with Nick Caley”