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USA declares war on Venezuela

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 23, 2025.

  1. dobro1229

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    I think any decent human US president would see a dictator like Maduro stay in power after losing an election, and WANT to see about helping restore that country back into having some legitimacy as a close neighboring country. However we have to ask why Biden ultimately did not do that and wonder why they thought it was a bad idea and Trump said fck it.

    The motives are really what matter here. You have good intentioned interests with Biden that were restrained by the reality of how unlikely it would be the succeed the way they’d hope (quick easy regime change), but with the Trump regime you have

    -The interests of Little Marco to ultimately take out Cuba and turn Central and South America into US territories
    -The interests of Stephen Miller to create an excuse to deport millions brown Americans to Venezuela or worse
    -The interests of Kushners private equity to control all logistical commerce globally. Particularly his interests in the construction industry which Venezuelan oil (diesel) is key to
    -The interests of Pete Hegseth to have some kickass military propaganda to prove he’s a billy badass.
    -etc etc


    It’s also hilarious that someone like Tallanavor would make this point because I’m sure if Biden would have taken out Maduro he would have been coming here to praise Biden like he is with Trump. Totally not a hypocrite at all.

    Had Biden taken out Maduro in any way like what Trump is doing Biden would have been removed from office within a week and an incoming MAGA admin would be looking to jail Biden and his advisors for war crimes.

    The fact is Biden didn’t do this because he knew it would be political suicide and he knew from Iraq, and Vietnam, etc etc. that even if he was successful at taking out Maduro overnight that it would create a power vacuum and destabilize the entire region. Which is why people are mostly critical of what Trump is doing here.
     
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  2. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Good Lord, this post is beyond dumb!
     
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  3. strosb4bros

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    While @deb4rockets is entitled to her POV and everyone should be open to discussion, I think we have to be real about someone as hyper emotional and oftentimes unhinged as her serving in the military. She comes off as naive to the way things work, how leaders have to think ahead of the crowd not with them, and is lost in her emotion.

    For someone with military experience to be as hyper emotional and locked into TDS as her is incredibly dangerous -- and could jeopardize troop safety as well as result in insubordination. I've known male servicemen who were discharged for emotional instability and it was always the right decision. Debbie is why an inexperienced Pete Hegseth had to be appointed and gut the existing DEI system because the military isn't about your emotions or promoting people based on immutable characteristics. It's about rank and carrying out orders. If you don't like that, go major in law and change things.

    This was an incredible, incredible operation that everyone wanted, but no one knew how to pull off. It was executed with extreme precision and scale in a way that was unprecedented. The reach on trying to spin this against Trump due to TDS is just sad.
     
  4. strosb4bros

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    This is the only real concern. Everything else you wrote is fantasy hogwash that has no place in reality. Trump should keep his family out of deals with all these despotic countries, but routinely gives them lifelines because he knows no one can stop him.

    Biden didn't do this because he was completely incompetent and senile, and the military reflected that.

    The strikes in Iran and Venezuela were done with speed, efficiency and precision that the Biden admin was light years away from. A military that was obsessed with race, gender and sexuality instead of getting the job done and it showed. Sending Iran billions in aid to arm Hamas so they could be seen as inclusive to Islamic ideology. Repeated bungles of operations and needless loss of lives.

    The only reason people are critical is because Trump did it , period. Everyone knew it was coming had their scripts written. Actual world leaders like Sarkozy thanked the US.
     
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  5. Kemahkeith

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    and anyone who wants to call her out on that have at it.

    Just no need for fat jokes.

    BTW I believe she was an air traffic controller. That takes stable nerves.

    she has mad hate for the Trumpster, that I do not deny, and do I think her retorts are many times fueled by that anger and I have responded such in the past to her directly.

    But no matter what her positions are there is no need for 3rd grade humor at the expense of others. Civility is needed on this board.

    We Got some neo-Christian preaching out of one side of his mouth and cussing like a drunken sailor out of the other.
    That is much more disgusting than a person who supposedly has TDS.
     
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  6. strosb4bros

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    True. @K9Texan need to go about things differently
     
  7. Salvy

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    Biden is the worst president of all time, are we really questioning the liberation of an entire country based on why Biden didn't do it???

    The Biden that opened up the border to millions upon millions recklessly. The Biden that made DEI the main hiring criteria. The Biden that apologized to a murdered for being called illegal despite the murderer being illegal. The Biden that left Afghanistan in the most embarrassing way possible. The Biden that gave Ukraine everything they wanted despite accomplishing nothing. The Biden that set back the economy for decades possibly.

    Lol, we are questioning why the most stupid president this country has ever seen did not liberate Venezuela and reap the benefits from the oil....
     
  8. dobro1229

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    The whole TDS thing is a reflection of the person who uses that thinking it’s a slur vs the person who is said to have TDS.

    I think there is nothing more American than being openly critical of an American president who is openly attempting to become a dictator and as corrupt as anyone has ever been in American history.

    The fact that you are someone trying to bully people into not caring about their country, the rule of law, and Democracy says waaaayyyy more about you than it does about me as someone who also apparently has TDS. If TDS means I care about my country and maintaining our freedoms than count me in as someone with TDS.
     
  9. dobro1229

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    lol… MAGA people really are in a cult. This script is ripped straight from truth social. You need go touch grass bro. Lay off the Nazi websites and get a life.
     
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    What an idiotic statement.
     
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    Hilarious coming from the leftist trash that is angry that a brutal DICTATOR was removed from office.
     
  12. Astrodome

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    This feel good story is just to distract you from the attempted trespassing of daycares in Minnesoata by right wing you tubers.

    Typical repugs
     
  13. Salvy

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    That's the problem, this is why y'all lost the election. Because you stroll around Reddit and BlueSky all day you think all of us have the time to go pick up propaganda...

    You really think Americans did not come up with this conclusion on their own. It has to be "MAGA lies"...

    Nope, this is why Biden was made fun of by literally the entire globe... Because he was too old and too stupid. Yet your most logical thing to do is question why Trump did something Biden couldn't.... Lmao, Trump has already done more for this country than Biden did in 4 years... One day you will get it....
     
  14. dobro1229

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    I needed a good laugh today. Thanks man.
     
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    If every State Department policy were treated as a military directive, the U.S. would be at war with China today - so it’s important not to confuse diplomatic statements with military action.

    The U.S. State Department is a non-military entity that condemned Maduro’s attempt to cling to power after elections as illegitimate - along with most democratic nations. Those statements do not authorize military force or an arrest by U.S. troops, which many now see as illegitimate and in violation of international law.
     
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  16. Salvy

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    Why would Trump bring back the stuck Astronauts???? If Biden did not do it there must be a reason. We should send them back ...
     
  17. Salvy

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    Glad you get to laugh after crying so much..
     
  18. dobro1229

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    I also find it hilarious that MAGA is all excited about prosecuting someone for machine gun charges.

    Like we are doing gun control in foreign countries now?? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad and pathetic.
     
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    i see so few posts in this thread, lol
     
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    America First right? LOL...y'all are in a cult and it's really not worth responding in good faith to any of you pricks. Trump sells pardons and grifts crypto? Fine by MAGA. You hear what you wanna hear, see what you wanna see or more specifically preconditioned to do as your told.
     
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