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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

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  1. peleincubus

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    I agree
     
  2. Deckard

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    Jack Smith says 'no historical analog' for Trump's actions around 2020 election, denies political influence
    Smith provided closed-door testimony to the House Judiciary Committee.
    By Lauren Peller
    December 31, 2025, 6:47 PM

    Former special counsel Jack Smith defended his decision to bring charges twice against President Donald Trump -- telling lawmakers in a closed-door deposition earlier this month that his team "had proof beyond reasonable doubt in both cases" that Trump was guilty of the charges in the 2020 election interference and classified documents cases.

    And Smith fervently denied that there was any political influence behind his decision -- contrary to what the Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee, who requested the testimony, alleged -- such as pressure from then-President Joe Biden or Attorney General Merrick Garland.

    "No," Smith responded continuously.

    Just over an hour before the closed testimony on Dec. 17, the Department of Justice sent an email to Smith's lawyers preventing him from discussing the classified documents case, according to the 255-page transcript of the deposition, released Wednesday by the Judiciary Committee along with a video of the hearing.

    This meant Smith was unable to answer most questions on that case and the deposition -- intended to ask questions about the alleged weaponization of the DOJ against Trump and his allies -- mainly focused on the 2020 election case instead.


    Smith's counsel said the DOJ also refused to send a lawyer to advise Smith on whether his statements were in line with their determination of what he could or could not say regarding the cases, according to the deposition. Smith did say, however, that Trump "obstructed" the classified documents investigation "to conceal his continued retention of those documents."

    Trump repeatedly denied the allegations in both felony cases, which were unprecedented against an American president, and decried them as part of a "witch hunt." Smith, one of Trump's frequent targets on social media, ultimately dropped the cases after Trump's reelection because he said that he was constitutionally prohibited from prosecuting a sitting president.

    Smith asserted in his final report that "but for Mr. Trump's election and imminent return to the Presidency, the Office assessed that the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial."

    During the deposition, Smith argued, as he had in the past, that Trump "President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 election and to prevent the lawful transfer of power."

    When asked if Trump was responsible for the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6, Smith said "Our view of the evidence was that he caused it and that he exploited it and that it was foreseeable to him."



    Smith argued that Trump's claims that he won the 2020 election were not protected free speech because they were intended to target a government function.

    "There is no historical analog for what President Trump did in this case. As we said in the indictment, he was free to say that he thought he won the election. He was even free to say falsely that he won the election," Smith said. "But what he was not free to do was violate Federal law and use knowing -- knowingly false statements about election fraud to target a lawful government function. That he was not allowed to do. And that differentiates this case from any past history."

    And Smith said Trump wrote a tweet that "without question in my mind endangered the life of his own Vice President" during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    (more at the link below)
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jac...umps-actions-2020-election/story?id=128819035
     
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  3. K9Texan

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    Smith is a fascist and a liar.
     
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    The Republican-led House Judiciary Committee released on Wednesday a transcript and video of a closed-door interview Smith gave about two investigations of Trump. The Dec. 17 deposition was conducted privately despite Smith's request to testify publicly.


    Jan. 6 attack 'does not happen' without Trump, Jack Smith told Congress




    Smith repeatedly made clear his belief that the evidence gathered against Trump was strong enough to sustain a conviction. Part of the strength of the Jan. 6 case, Smith said, was the extent to which it relied on the testimony of Trump allies and supporters who cooperated with the investigation.

    "We had an elector in Pennsylvania who is a former congressman, who was going to be an elector for President Trump, who said that what they were trying to do was an attempt to overthrow the government and illegal," Smith said. "Our case was built on, frankly, Republicans who put their allegiance to the country before the party."

    Accounts from Republicans willing to stand up against the falsehood that the election had been stolen "even though it could mean trouble for them" created what Smith described as the "most powerful" evidence against Trump.

    When it came to the Capitol riot itself, Smith said, the evidence showed that Trump "caused it and that he exploited it and that it was foreseeable to him."
     
  5. jo mama

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    smith got testimony from republicans and trumps own staff. he has the receipts. we also know trump did nothing for hours but sit and watch tv while his supporters trashed the capitol and beat up cops. his staff, children and media friends were all texting him telling him to tell his supporters to stop and instead he made a tweet attacking mike pence. we know that trump acknowledged to others that he lost so he knowingly committed fraud with his baseless claims.

    january 6th would not have happened without trump inciting them. its 100% his fault.

    trump is also on recording telling the georgia secretary of state to "find" 11,780 votes so he can win. its all out in the open and he was allowed to get away with it. there shouldnt be any debate on any of this. we all saw it in real time with our own eyes. its just that trump and his supporters are so dishonest and want to rewrite history.

    and the party of law and order supports someone who pardoned people who beat up cops. its very hypocritical.

    also, we have posters in here who spent years engaging in conspiracy theories about who left the pipe bombs and now we know it was someone who bought into trumps lies about the election being stolen. havent heard much from those posters since they caught the guy, have we?
     

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