[Minnesota News] Massive COVID Fund Fraud Ring Busted.

Are investigations ongoing? Will the 0.13% number rise? What % would make the # significant?

 

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They have been charged is my understanding. I personally only use data on actual cases, not rumors or reports of more is coming, if that’s what’s going on.

As for what % is significant enough to indicate a cultural issue, you tell me. I don’t know - haven’t given it much thought. Certainly the level now is absurd to be argued as cultural.

 

It looks like the media has caught wind so the number could potentially rise. I don't know why that they dont tell the "reporters" that there are kids in the building. He wouldn't have a right to see them so then he could kick rocks. But for some reason they get quiet when asked if there are actual children inside.

 

What? I thought we were talking about healthcare fraud.

 

The Somali community is a large part of Minneapolis and the community.

There is something like 75,000 Somali's in Minneapolis - and about half were born in the USA.

So I don't think it is weird for people in Minneapolis to support their friends and neighbors that are Somali.

Especially with the President referred to Somali's as "lazy" recently.

Having said that - I find the wearing of the Hajib to be odd, the lady isn't a Muslim, and she isn't Somalian.

 

There has been fraud in Minnesota involving state funds that were ear marked to pay for meals for poor children in the state.

About a decade ago, a white woman (because apparently the President has decided this is a race issue on this topic) formed an organization that was to seek funding from the government to provide meals to children in poverty. A disproportionate number of children in poverty in Minnesota are Somali.

The organization would then distribute the money to lower level businesses to feed children.

The organization seems to have been uncorrupt until COVID.

During COVID, the local and federal government limited red tape because it was a crisis and people needed help.

Once the red tape was removed, the level of fraud from this lady and her organization greatly increased.

What isn't true - is the idea that the government in Minnesota did not try to do anything.

Minnesota sued to get the lady and organization to stop based on fraud allegations.

A judge said no - that there wasn't sufficient proof.

So the Justice Department got involved - and here we are.

The idea that this is some sort of Somali master plan to defraud is false.

The ring leader isn't Somali.

There are certainly Somali's involved, as there are a number of Somali charities.

I am not surprised that Trump and his media are attempting to make this about Somali's.

Minneapolis is a very blue city - Miller and Trump want to deport Somali's, as they have a very high poverty rate entering the USA, many are Muslim and most don't speak English when they come to the USA.

Also - immigration is Trump's strongest issue with voters - he thinks it is a winner from him, and distracts from everyone discussing whether the President ****ed children.

 

The federal fraud in MN has evolved to include Day Care centers in recent years.

 

LOL Okay.

Look, fraud doesn't know a single political party --- there are lots of examples of fraud by actual Democratic politicians, and fraud is ripe in poverty when it comes to distributing funds. Has been the case in the USA for well over 150 years.

Having said that - it is very hard to find a more fraudulent President than Donald Trump.... there have been others that were bad, and some of them Democrats.... but Trump is at the level of Andrew Johnson and possibly Warren Harding. He makes USS Grant and Bill Clinton seem above board.

 

I was talking specifically about charged healthcare fraud cases, because that’s the only solid data point we have. That’s the post you replied to.

Daycare allegations, media reports, or “more may be coming” aren’t data until charges are filed. I’m not disputing investigations exist, I’m saying I won’t treat speculation as data.

You also asked what percentage would indicate a “cultural” issue. I don’t see a defensible threshold where a tiny fraction of offenders justifies labeling an entire group. Even if a few dozen daycare cases are added, it won’t materially change the percentage.

If you want to argue culture, bring numbers that actually support that claim. Otherwise, this stays an enforcement issue, not a cultural one.