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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. SamFisher

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    I don't think anybody here has taken @glynch seriously as anything other than a morbidly stupid Putinist bot for awhile, but the fact that the pretend leftist PutinBot is now touting the US "fossil fuel-powered AI datacenter & ICE ethnic cleasning & bribes" anti science/anti-vax MAGA economy over Europe's in the medium term is *certainly something*

    Enjoy your/America's new golden shower age bruh.
     
  2. basso

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  3. glynch

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    Well more proof that the Ukraine War could have been avoided if they had agreed to no NATO Expansion.
    Just another example of folks in the Biden Administration.

    https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukraine-nato-sloat/
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    Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Europe at the National Security Council Amanda Sloat, in an interview with Russian pranksters whom she believed were aides to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    “We had some conversations even before the war started about, what if Ukraine comes out and just says to Russia, ‘Fine, you know, we won’t go into NATO, you know, if that stops the war, if that stops the invasion’ — which at that point it may well have done,” Sloat told the pranksters. “There is certainly a question, three years on now, you know, would that have been better to do before the war started, would that have been better to do in Istanbul talks? It certainly would have prevented the destruction and loss of life.”

    "“If you wanna do an alternative version of history, you know, one option would have just been for Ukraine to say in January 2022, ‘Fine, we won’t go into NATO, we’ll stay neutral,’” Sloat said. “Ukraine could’ve made a deal in March, April 2022 around the Istanbul talks.”

    Also.
    Sloat is not the first to have made this admission. As I documented two years ago, former NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and former Biden Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines both likewise explicitly said that NATO’s potential expansion into Ukraine was the core grievance that motivated Putin’s decision to invade, and that, at least according to Stoltenberg, NATO rejected compromising on it. Zelensky has now publicly agreed to this concession to advance peace talks — only three years later, with Ukraine now in physical ruins, its economy destroyed, hundreds of thousands of casualties, and survivors traumatized and disabled on a mass scale.
     
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  4. El_Conquistador

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    You nailed it. I've been saying this for years. So many people are starting to see what happened here. When Anthony Blinken signed the Strategic Cooperation Agreement with Ukraine in late 2021, he invited war. He got his wish. Democrats are in favor of endless war -- they are irresponsible people who do not value human life. Biden's foreign policy was the worst in history.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  6. glynch

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    The WSJ is desperate to keep the Ukraine project with its juicy military industrial LNG profts rolling.
     
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    @Nook utter disgrace
     
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  8. Space Ghost

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    having US direct interest greatly reduces a chance of attacks.

    its also a way to get US soldiers in the battlefield, something you soulless war mongers pray to your despicable democrat party
     
  9. rimrocker

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    Zelensky arrived in Florida for talks with Trump. Not one US official was there to greet him. It's not just a lack of courtesy and decorum, it's an astonishing diplomatic message that says the US views Ukraine as a hostile. Compare this to the pomp and displays Putin received in Alaska.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    Disgusting, but completely unsurprising.
     

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