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What if Fred comes back before playoffs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hemingway, Nov 28, 2025.

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What Happens if Fred Comes Back for the Playoffs

  1. He is inserted into the starting lineup

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  2. Reed starts and FVV takes all of Okogies minutes

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  3. FVV supplants Reed as no. 1 off the bench with Okogie starting

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  4. FVV and Reed are the starting backcourt and Amen replaces Jabari at PF

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  5. Other: explain in post

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  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    Sure, there are aspects Reed might be already better than Fred.....that is visible.....

    But Fred is still more steady Freddy in certain types of situations you cannot simulate.

    Dude has been to the Finals with Kawhi......and made big Playoff shots.....

    You don't want his career to basically be over the hill after that type of injury though on this team or any other team for that matter.

     
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    Well, it is consistently below average......

    I would call him steady in situations where you need the calmer hand.

     
  3. Joe Joe

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    I appreciate FVV. I value FVV's defense and game management highly. I'd find a way to get both FVV and Reed 30 mpg if they were both healthy.

    That said, mostly, I think it will just take time for Reed to learn to fit with Durant, Amen, and Sengun. Whether it be the next game or 20 games from now, I'm expecting a spike in 3PAs from Reed from him learning how to get to spaces those players create and from those guys learning how Reed moves without the ball during a defensive breakdown or an offensive board.

    I think Adams has already figured out how Reed moves on an offensive board. Holiday and Reed work well together pulling the defense in opposite directions, and replacing one another based on how the other moves off ball.
     
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  4. Hemingway

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    Agree with a lot of this. Durant is a tough fit for anybody that needs the ball. Hopefully the team can get the ball to Reed where he needs it to take advantage of his elite skill. The problem with both Reed and Holiday whether they are playing together or not is defense. They have to get effective on both sides of the ball to not be a net negative. We need their shooting on offense. Batum kind of demonstrated last game that Reed needs to play off-ball. Teams are brutalizing him when he has the ball. Teams have adjusted like i predicted and are herding him out to the half-court line. He wasn’t even quick enough to make Batum pay.
     
  5. solid

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    Fred is the vet: you play him. Now, if Reed is averaging 25+ a game and playing mad defense, you take another look.
     
  6. SuperMarioBro

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    Am I missing something? I'm surprised how seriously everyone seems to be taking this question.

    Is there even a snowball's chance in hell that FVV comes back that soon? Has anyone ever come back from a torn ACL that soon?

    I know it's a hypothetical, but I feel like most hypotheticals worth several pages of discussion have at least some likelihood of happening. Not only that, but the OP kinda implied this was a real possibility...
     
  7. Le$$

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    He'll be available via the trade deadline in FEB. Lol
     
  8. BallSoHarden

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    If he is available, you try and trade him for Kyrie during Dallas' inevitable fire sale.
     
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    Apparently Kyle Lowry came back in under 4 months...in college.
     
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  11. Mathloom

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    FVV believes it's possible and mentioned in the Durant podcast that he's working towards that even if chances are slim.

    The average recovery time is 6 months - which would mean he's ready by 23 March 2026. The playoffs don't start till 18 April 2026. That gives him 25 days to get in game shape before the playoffs.

    There's a lot on the line for him. If he doesn't come back, he could be traded this summer. We could acquire a CP3 and by end of season Amen/Reed will make FVV redundant. He doesn't seem to want to miss out on this season.

    It's not uncommon for people to recover a month early or a month late. Treatment is always becoming more efficient. If he really has his mind on it, it's definitely possible.
     
  12. J Sizzle

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    Doesn’t really matter if he comes back or not. We still have Udoka as our coach, which means we still don’t have any structure to close games. Couple that with our defense falling off a cliff this year, and this team is going absolutely nowhere. First round exit at best with this coaching.
     
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    What about next season? Do we let Fred start or do we give Reed the reins? If Reed keeps improving this season, I think there's a strong case for starting him over Fred.
     
  14. Aruba77

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    Reed is inevitable. Fred’s future at his age coming off injury is off the bench. Can’t hold Reed back after what he is showing. Fred can help instill the toughness and make him better defensively. But it’s Reed’s Show next yr.
     
  15. Mathloom

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    I think with a bit more muscle, experience and cleaned up handles for Reed - FVV can try to outplay Reed but he won't be able to next season.

    People forget that Fred is in the rapid decline phase of his career. It's when all time greats decline and there's no reason why FVV shouldn't decline as well. The last Fred we saw SUCKED - he was the most inefficient guard or wing on the roster last season. He shot 39% from the field and 32% from 3. The next Fred we see is unlikely to be better than that. He's aged and had a major injury since then.

    Next season will be KD's second and there will be no excuse for anyone if we don't win a title. Fertitta, Stone, Udoka and KD will all be accountable to that next season. For that elite a team, he's a perfect bench player or 5th best starter probably for the rest of his career.
     
    #135 Mathloom, Dec 21, 2025 at 1:30 AM
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  16. lnchan

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    Maybe being an Astros fan makes me super pessimistic, but I think he comes back after DFS and Tari.
     

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