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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Reeko

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    Coondace Owens is trash, but she is elite at what she does and clearly has these losers flustered

    all these people do is fight each other because at their core, they’re all just garbage
     
  2. Reeko

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    self proclaimed alpha male got b*tch slapped after going on an anti-Jew tirade and immediately retreated

    they look how you’d expect…one of them fat and doughy, and the other who got slapped looks like he’s 5’5

    this is the “master race”
     
  3. edwardc

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    He seems very angry.
     
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  4. edwardc

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    Yes she maybe . You are a typical 47 so call christian.
     
  5. K9Texan

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    Is Obama a racist? He did nothing to stop the deportation of illegals in Martha's Vineyard.
     
  6. peleincubus

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    It's a bit surreal that people act like this online these days. Over the last 15+ years it has continued to escalate as well.

    When you walk down the grocery aisle you got random people walking by you like K9Texan raging online every day. At least Tinman has an excuse with a touch of mental health issues. K9Texan just seems like a raging a**hole.
     
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  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet
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    The top 1% earn 26.3% of gross income, not more than 60%. They pay 45% of all income taxes.
    Tax Basics in Five Charts | Cato at Liberty Blog
    You are right that it isn't equitable, they are paying more than their fair share. I wasn't even limiting it to income taxes, because income taxes are the most progressive. The top 10% pay over 75% of all income taxes (while earning 52.6% of the AGI). You are just pulling numbers out of thin air and
     
  8. juicystream

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    AGI isn't actually gross income despite it being in the name. I don't know where his number comes from, but the majority of money the super wealthy make is in unrealized gains. Our tax system is too friendly to capital while punishing labor.
     
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  9. peleincubus

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    Yup it’s just that simple sir. That’s why wealth disparity is at levels a few years ago exceeding pre Great Depression levels and is even more out of proportion presently.
     
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  10. adoo

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    they = the middle class
     
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  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet
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    It comes from the IRS. @adoo was talking about income tax. Capital gains are not affected by income tax, so they were irrelevant to the point of contention.
    Wealth disparity is at extremely high levels because having money makes you money. Without some major shock that destroys vast amounts of wealth among the highest echelons of society (think the stock market crash, the October revolution) wealth disparities generally grow. They are also relatively meaningless. It doesn't affect you differently if Elon Musk has a 10 million times your net worth or 100 million, even though that is one additional order of magnitude of wealth inequality. What matters is your purchasing power.
    They is the taxpaying class. Depending on what you consider the middle class, some or all of them can be included. The majority of Americans pay around net zero or less in taxes.
     
  12. adoo

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    bluntly put, you have no idea what you're talking about,

    this is from IRS, https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409

    "Net capital gains are taxed at different rates depending on overall taxable income,"

    the taxpaying class includes
    • the uber rich, top 5%
    • the middle class
    • some of the poor
      • eg, in 2024, the tax rate for those whose taxable income in the $12K range is 12%
    overwhelming, it is the middle class
     
    #13912 adoo, Dec 17, 2025 at 10:26 AM
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  13. B-Bob

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    I agree with part 1 of your post. As my father used to say: You could take all the money, give everyone an even share, and after a couple of decades of our same economic system, you'd have the same people with the lion's share of the money. (The branch of "econophysics" also shows this strikingly -- it fits statistical physics to a T.)

    But I disagree with the meaningless part. It does affect us all if a few people have vast amounts of wealth, because they can unduly control things and actually make the even exchange of goods, services, and power totally lopsided. We leave a real democracy and free economy behind as they accumulate power and mutate the system for their own benefit. That seems completely and totally obvious and part of the historical pattern.
     
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  14. adoo

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    as pointed out by Calif's Gov Newsom, there is a seeming disconnect between the POTUS and the VPOTUS

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    #13914 adoo, Dec 17, 2025 at 11:02 AM
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    Feels like he's straight out of Westboro Baptist.
     
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    • Barack Obama's administration deported more immigrants than any other in the last 3 decades, according to official figures analyzed by Factchequeado. It carried out 2,749,706 deportations in 8 years, an average of 942 per day. During his first term (2009-2012), it averaged 1,088 per day; in the second (2013-2016), the daily average dropped to 794.
    • Between January and June 2025, Donald Trump's administration carried out 128,039 deportations, averaging 810 per day, fewer than in the years with the highest deportations under Obama. But detentions have reached record numbers: on August 11, 2025, it surpassed 60,000 arrests, more than 80% without criminal records, according to ICE data.
    • Obama's policy prioritized, especially in his second term, the deportation of people with criminal charges, while in Trump's policy, the categories don't matter.
    https://factchequeado.com/teexplicamos/20250820/obama-deportations-trump-biden-numbers/
     
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  17. K9Texan

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    Question. Should anybody be permitted to live in the U.S.?
     
  18. El_Conquistador

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    For the liberals... see below... for a dose of reality.




    GOOD DAY
     
  19. edwardc

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    Of course they should but first thing that needs to be fix is the immigration system which has been broken for a really long time. If 47 hadn't stopped the bill that both sides were will to vote on it may have been on the path to repairing the system.
     
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  20. K9Texan

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    Ok. So you believe anyone and everyone has the right to live here regardless of their beliefs.

    Would you be ok with 300 million Muslims moving here and turning the U.S. into Sharia State?

    Do you support making fellow Americans pay for the housing, education (through college), and medical care for every immigrant that chooses to live in the U.S.?
     

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