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USA on the verge of declaring war on Venezuela

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 23, 2025.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    No, but if we're rightfully going to call out all of the right-wing b.s. news sources we should rightfully call out all of the left-wing ones too.

    Or do you not agree?
     
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  2. lionaire

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    The link was literally in the tweet thread d!ckhead. instead you chose to do a background check of the poster. anyways, enough derailing.
     
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  3. HTM

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    A warrant was issued for this vessels seizure.

    Funny seeing people moan about a Russian oligarchs tanker used to evade sanctions being seized.

    As if they haven’t been calling for the dismantling of the Russian shadow fleet for years.

    Holy **** you people are insane.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Oh it was absolutely was not in the tweet you posted, cockmuppet.

    But learn from it: post links to reputable news sources, not twitters and twats
     
  5. Newlin

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    Doesn’t it feel like we are doing terrorist stuff. Bombing boats and hijacking ships.
     
  6. AkeemTheDreem86

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    CockMuppet!?! Where's my pen, I'm writing this one down...
     
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  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet
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    I would direct you to the landmark case of Might v. Right, 1 World 1 (10,000 B.C.).
     
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  8. No Worries

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    A warrant issued from the desk of Pam Bondi?
     
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  9. Kemahkeith

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    Who is Tennille?
     
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  10. The Captain

    The Captain ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    She couldn’t handle bob haircuts going out of style so I had to leave her on an island.
     
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  11. Amiga

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    Legal warrants and sanctions enforcement have become cover for what senators are openly calling regime change operations (including Venezuelanizing opposing leader). We've seen this before - sanctions, seizures, and blockades each justified as law enforcement, but collectively they're economic warfare that precedes military conflict.

    Being anti-war means recognizing escalation patterns, not just opposing declared wars. If China seized American vessels using their legal framework, we'd call it a hostile act regardless of the paperwork. The question isn't whether a warrant exists - it's whether we're using legal mechanisms to prosecute what's functionally a blockade and regime change campaign.

    Let's not be naive, especially if you are anti-war.
     
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  12. juicystream

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    I used to respect Rand, but a Libertarian would have never supported Trump. Always feels like he only takes these stances when it isn't going to matter in the end. It is way more pragmatic of him, but there was a time when I saw Rand has extremely principled.
     
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  13. Nook

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    Yes....
     
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  14. Kemahkeith

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    I will pray for her.
    That seems to be the sentiment of the day.
     
  15. HTM

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    Nothing ever pleases you people.

    Do you want to dismantle the Russian shadow fleet or not?

    We don't do it - you b****.

    We do do it - you b****.
     
  16. justtxyank

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    His father accepted a ceiling on his career by not compromising. Rand is the more political version of his father. He's got a Senate seat, he's made a fortune, he's run for POTUS and probably will again at some point which helps him sell books and get speaking fees, etc.

    You don't have to agree with Ron Paul to acknowledge that he was committed.
     
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  17. HTM

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    A WaRRAnT IsSueD FroM the DeSk oF MeRiCk GarLanD???

    The warrant was issued by a federal judge - I am not sure which judge or what their political affiliation is.

    Look at these Putin bootlickers in here denouncing the seizure of a Russian shadow fleet oil tanker, which was sanctioned by the Biden administration and subject to seizure, illegally flying Guyana's flag.

    This is exactly the type of vessel propping up Putin's economy and ability to make war.

    People have been calling for the dismantling of the Russian shadow fleet for years and the Trump Administration actually does something to do that and you all hate it.

    Completely laughable.

    If Trump cured cancer you'd b**** and say he didn't do it fast enough.
     
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    The cancer curing analogy is ridiculous. You would never say something like “if Charles Manson or Bernie Madoff or Al Capone cured cancer…”

    Trump has never once done anything as president that wasn’t about serving himself, completely corrupt, and often driven by hateful grievance.

    Trump is a straight up evil snake oil selling clown. He has never earned the right to even use the “if he cured cancer” analogy because he does not seek to do good things ever… well unless you are a billionaire then from your perspective he is doing good things for you personally.

    That being said, I dont have a problem with the US seizing at least temporarily vessels that can are able to be seized according to international and maritime law. I’m surprised Little PeePee Pete didn’t just order a drone strike and blow it out of the water. I guess it was because of the oil onboard where Trump always says we should steal other countries oil after invading and killing a bunch of people. So maybe that’s why they didn’t just blow it out of the water to prove they are real macho men.
     
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  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Trump loves the Village People, he needs no further evidence of his Macho Man-liness
     
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  20. Amiga

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    It’s not that “nothing ever pleases us.” It’s that there’s a massive difference between enforcing sanctions and escalating into military confrontation.

    If we’re positioning fleets next to Russia, striking boats off their coast, and seizing their tankers with U.S. forces, that’s not “dismantling a shadow fleet”, that’s edging toward open conflict. And pretending those actions are the same as standard sanction enforcement is dishonest.

    What’s weird is how quickly some people who claim to be anti-war are fine with this, as if certain presidents shouldn’t be held to the same standard when it comes to risking escalation.
     
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