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[Omnibus]Elon Musk Scandals

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  1. Space Ghost

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    you do understand he gets stock?
    You understand he cant sell it?

    why do people like yourself struggle with elementary ideas such as money?

    there is much to criticize the deal ( just let chatgpt do the work since you are unable to comprehend secondary effects). He has already paid more taxes than mist billionaires. But that isnt enough for you.
     
  2. Mango

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    Elon Musk's Boring Company Fined Nearly $500,000 for Environmental Violations

    The Boring Company, owned by Elon Musk, has been penalized with a fine of almost $500,000. The fine was imposed by a county environmental regulator for causing significant damage to the county’s infrastructure by dumping drilling fluids into Las Vegas manholes.

    The Clark County Water Reclamation District (CCWRD) issued a notice of violation to the Boring Company last week. The notice accuses the company’s employees of continuing to dump drilling fluids even after being instructed to stop by the inspectors.

    The company seemingly complied the following day, but resumed the dumping once they believed the inspectors had left, reports the Fortune.

    The CCWRD had to clean up 12 cubic yards of drilling mud and other waste from one of its sewage treatment facilities due to the discharges by the Boring Company. The drilling fluids and spoils mentioned in the citation are believed to be the toxic liquid that collects at the bottom of the tunnels as the company’s machinery drills through earth and rock.

    This liquid can contain a variety of chemicals, including MasterRoc AGA 41S, which has caused burns to many Boring workers when they were directly exposed to it.

    According to the outlet, the hefty fine of $493,297.08, which includes $131,297.08 for the district’s expenses to remedy the fluid dumping, is due to “the egregious nature of the violations, the substantial damage to district infrastructure, the district emergency resources expended responding to the Violations, and the company’s acknowledgement of responsibility for the Violations.”

    Why It Matters: This is not the first time the Boring Company has been in the limelight for the wrong reasons. The company has been accused on several occasions of bypassing safety protocols or regulations as it constructs a network of tunnels below Las Vegas.

    In the past three years, CCWRD has only issued a fine greater than $100,000 to one other company for wastewater discharge.

    This incident further adds to the growing list of allegations against the Boring Company, raising concerns about its operational practices.
     
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  3. Mango

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    Deaf Man Sues Tesla for Firing Him When His Hearing Aids Malfunctioned

    A former Tesla employee claims he was fired after raising complaints about how the extreme heat of his work environment was causing his hearing aids to malfunction.

    The man, Hans Kohls, made the allegations in a lawsuit against the Elon Musk owned automaker, which was filed Monday and obtained by The Independent.

    Kohls, who is deaf, previously worked at Tesla’s enormous Gigafactory in Austin, Texas, where he was given a job melting aluminum at 1,220 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the reporting. The “extreme heat and moisture” of the casting department, which “far exceed standard industrial heat levels,” the lawsuit said, caused his hearing aids to fail, something that was not only a massive inconvenience, but dangerous: it would be impossible for Kohl to hear alarms and other safety alerts without them.

    But when Kohl asked to be reassigned, the suit alleges, Tesla failed to comply with the regulations of the Americans With Disabilities Act and instead fired him.

    “The facts of this case are stark and troubling,” Kohls’ attorney Andrew Rozynski told The Independent. “Tesla had a highly qualified employee who requested the most basic accommodation under the ADA, reassignment to a vacant position where he’d already demonstrated success. Instead of complying with the law, they fired him within nine days and told him he was being ‘medically separated.'”

    The lawsuit adds to longstanding scrutiny over Tesla’s grueling workplace conditions. Several deaths have occurred at its factories, and the company has been accused of underreporting hundreds of workplace injuries.

    Much attention has also been paid to Musk’s personal treatment of employees. He has a history of impulsively firing employees on the spot during his frequent fits of rage, and allegedly threatened to deport an employee who raised a critical safety issue.

    Kohls applied for an internship through Tesla’s START program for training candidates to work technical jobs at the company in February 2024, the lawsuit said. He had previously worked in an industrial environment at another job, so when he was asked in an interview whether he would still be able to work in a hot environment after the interviewer noticed his hearing aid, he answered yes.

    But “neither the application nor the interview disclosed that the Casting Department’s extreme heat and humidity conditions would far exceed standard industrial heat levels,” the lawsuit stated. Adding to the feeling of deception, Kohls was first sent to work at different departments at the Texas Gigafactory where conditions were much cooler. In other words, nothing Tesla had him train for prepared him for the extreme heat he would face when he was assigned to the casting department.

    Kohls soon filed a transfer request in June 2024 to Tesla HR, asking to be sent to another position where his hearing aids could still function, a form of disability accommodation that’s obligated by the ADA, the suit argues. Instead, Tesla insisted that no other jobs were available — which the suit says is untrue — and that the START program “prohibited transfers.” Nine days later, Kohls was fired, and was told he was being “medically separated.”

    “By characterizing the termination as ‘medical separation,’ Tesla revealed it was terminating Mr. Kohls because he had a disability that required accommodation — not for any legitimate, non-discriminatory reason,” reads the suit.

    “By characterizing the termination as ‘medical separation,’ Tesla revealed it was terminating Mr. Kohls because he had a disability that required accommodation — not for any legitimate, non-discriminatory reason,” reads the suit.

    Kohls is demanding that he be reinstated to a new position at Tesla and is asking a judge to declare the automaker in violation of the ADA and the Texas Commission on Human Rights Act, according to The Independent.


     
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    That is so disgusting.
     
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    Guys like Musk, Trump, and the oil billionaires could care less about violating safety or spewing toxins. The fines are nothing to them. They will just keep doing it until the laws against repeated violations land their asses in prison, or their companies are shut down.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    you would prefer to bankrupt tesla. Then we could have more ICE cars polluting toxins into our environment.
     
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    What's crazy about jerk off`s like Musk and Tramp is, you never hear about them being philanthropists like Warren Buffet or Bill Gates (who may be an ass but gives his $$ away)...................such Christian Values they have :rolleyes:
     
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    I prefer that companies stop violating the laws, abusing workers, and ignoring safety violations and regs. It's that simple.
     
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    What's mechahitler up to now?
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    This is someone who repeatedly demonstrates a lack of empathy and awareness, is proud of it and wears it like a badge.
     
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    Him and his dad are pure evil racists
     
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  14. Space Ghost

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    Even the chat bots call your post ignorant.

    Key Points of Musk's Statement
    • Empathy as an "exploit": Musk suggested that empathy is an "exploit" or a "bug" in Western civilization that can be used by bad actors or for political manipulation.
    • Context of the discussion: The conversation revolved around the idea that prioritizing certain groups or policies out of an excess of empathy could be detrimental to the overall society, an idea that critics argue is used to justify cutting social programs and aid.
    • Musk's clarification: He stated that while empathy is generally good, people need to think it through and not be "programmed like a robot," implying a need for a balance of empathy and rationality.
    • Public reaction: The quote was widely circulated across social media and news outlets, drawing significant criticism from those who viewed the statement as a sign of a lack of a moral compass or an endorsement of a cruel worldview.
     
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  16. Mango

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    So far, people are taking this as an actual thing rather than something AI generated to harm Musk - Tesla.

    I found a video on Youtube of the incident and used it instead of the Reddit video used by Electrek.


    Tesla Optimus robot takes a suspicious tumble in new demo


    A new video surfacing from a Tesla demonstration in Miami this weekend shows the Optimus humanoid robot taking a nasty fall. But it’s not the fall itself that is raising eyebrows, it’s the specific hand movements the robot made on its way down, which strongly suggest it was mimicking a remote operator frantically removing a VR headset.

    Humanoid robots are all the hype right now. Billions in investments are pouring in, and Elon Musk claims it will be a trillion-dollar product for Tesla, justifying its insane valuation.

    The idea has been that with the advent of AI, robots in human form could use the new generalized artificial intelligence to replace humans in an increasingly larger number of tasks.

    However, there are still many serious concerns about the effort, both at the ethical and technological levels.

    Technologically, most humanoid robot demonstrations have relied on remote control by human operators – pointing to a remaining gap between the software and hardware.

    We discussed how the robots at the “We, Robot” event were heavily teleoperated, despite Tesla not explicitly disclosing that fact to the public.

    That was more than a year ago, and despite claims that Tesla has made “AI demos” of Optimus since, it appears the company still relies on teleoperation to control them during demonstrations.


    The Tesla Optimus Miami Incident

    This weekend, Tesla held an event called ‘Autonomy Visualized’ at its store in Miami. The goal was to showcase Tesla’s “Autopilot technology and Optimus.”

    However, there was nothing “autonomous” at Tesla’s “autonomy” event.

    Many Tesla fans were seen posting videos of a Tesla Optimus robot handing out bottles of water at the event. It was also seen posing for pictures and dancing.

    On Reddit, someone posted a different video of the demonstration:



    As you can see, Tesla Optimus moved its hands too quickly, causing some water bottles to drop to the ground. It then loses its balance and begins to fall backward.

    But the most interesting part is that just before falling backward, both of its hands immediately shoot up to its “face” in a distinct grasping motion, as if pulling an object off its head.

    The robot, of course, is not wearing anything on its head.

    The motion is instantly recognizable to anyone who has used VR or watched teleoperation setups. It appears the human operator, likely located backstage or in a remote facility, removed their headset in the middle of operating the robot for unknown reasons.

    Optimus faithfully replicated the motion of removing a non-existent headset as it crashed to the floor.

    Here’s a look at how Tesla trained Optimus with VR headsets in its lab:


    Electrek’s Take
    This is embarrassing, but not just because the robot fell. Robots fall; that’s part of the R&D process. Boston Dynamics blooper reels are legendary, and they never really eroded the company’s credibility.

    The problem here is the “Wizard of Oz” moment.

    The specific motion of removing the “phantom headset” destroys the illusion of autonomy Tesla tries so hard to curate.

    Even recently, Musk fought back against the notion that Tesla relies on teleoperation for its Optimus demonstration. He specified that a new demo of Optimus doing kung-fu was “AI, not tele-operated”:

    Musk said again during Tesla’s last earnings call in October:

    “Optimus was at the Tron premiere doing kung fu, just up in the open, with Jared Leto. Nobody was controlling it. It was just doing kung fu with Jared Leto at the Tron Premier. You can see the videos online. The funny thing is, a lot of people walked past it thinking it was just a person.”

    Musk keeps telling shareholders that Optimus will be the biggest product in history and that millions of units will be working in factories soon. But if they are still relying on 1:1 teleoperation to hand out water bottles right now, it feels like we are still far away from a useful generalized Optimus robot.
     
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    Just dropped in to say that Elon is a POS and there is a special place in hell for him..................where he is poor and is a slave to his transgender kid
     

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