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Should we bail out the farmers, again?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Sep 9, 2025.

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Should the government bailout the farmers again?

Poll closed Nov 9, 2025.
  1. Yes - but only as a loan

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  2. Yes = Just give them the money

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. No - They voted for this mess - let them live with it.

    23 vote(s)
    82.1%
  1. Buck Turgidson

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    C'mon, you know there's a NY Post article out there that paints this as a stunning victory for Trump, and thus America
     
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  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    This is in Project 2025 - kill the foreign market for our AG, so farmers go bankrupt and billionaires buy up their land for pennies on the dollar.

    This is all another grift for the rich.

    DD
     
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  4. Buck Turgidson

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  5. adoo

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    thanks for the update

    Some 6 months after Trump 2.0 declaring liberation day,
    US cedes its share of China's beef market to Australia


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    Australian beef has replaced U.S. supply in China since President Donald Trump returned to the White House, funnelling hundreds of millions of dollars that have in previous years gone to the U.S. cattle industry into Australian pockets.

    U.S. shipments to China, worth around $120 million a month, collapsed after Beijing in March allowed permits to expire at hundreds of American meat facilities and as Trump unleashed a tit-for-tat tariff war.​
     
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  7. The Captain

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    You hear that giant sucking sound?
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    Seems this is what the majority think.

    DD
     
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    This pisses me off as I bought a lot of grass-fed Australian meats at a local chain (Whole foods carries at least some of the same meat but charged outrageous prices--even before Trump's stupid tariffs). Shortly after Trump's tariffs were announced, my local chain must have seen the writing on the wall because they closed their doors for good.

    I've pretty much given up on GF meats now thanks to Trump and the assholes that voted for him. :mad:
     
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  10. Surfguy

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    If you are going to bail out farmers on these soy beans, then why don't you take all that soy and make tofu. Then, give it away for free to the American taxpayers. How's that sound?
     
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    I now have the same thinking as Cartman, you did it once and we bailed you out, then you turn around and vote for him again knowing this would happen..................he huffed and puffed about tariffs and how smart he was about using them, and you still did it.................pull yourself up by the boot straps and get to selling to the big Oligarchs and then go get one of them fancy factory jobs that pay 22.50 an hour and learn to live in an apartment. The sad part is I am sure you would do this again given the chance
     
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  12. Rocket River

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    You said the F-word

    Rocket River
     
  13. Reeko

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    Farmers don’t deserve a dime and should be allowed to lose everything, but is this fool serious?
     
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    Reporter: What are you going to do about the farm bill?

    LBJ: Pay it.
     
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    What a ****ing idiot. Severe tariffs on fertilizer? Lets give the farmers aid and then says he cripple them with severe tariffs on fertilizer. Imports over 90 percent fertilizer.
     
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  16. Reeko

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    now they’re crying that their welfare isn’t high enough…words can’t truly portray how much I hate these stupid fcks

    bunch of low IQ welfare queens

    Randal Shelby, a soybean farmer in Arkansas, described the newly announced package as “a slap in the face” for farmers.

    “Our bills are past due and due now, all due to their actions,” he said. “[The aid] will be divided up among all other crop farmers that don’t have anything to do with soybeans.”

    Shelby, who voted for Trump, noted that while every agricultural crop had been hit hard, “but nowhere near as hard as the soybean farmers and the rice farmers”.

    Shelby, a former nurse, has been teetering on the brink of bankruptcy for months. He cited high fuel costs, rising interest rates, falling crop prices and depressed Chinese demand amid geopolitical tensions as culprits.

    “It’ll be bankrupting all. And I mean, there are so many of us that are on the fence on that right now,” he added, noting that banks were still negotiating on giving new loans, and it was unclear if he would farm at all next season.

    He highlighted that, despite Trump’s regular claims that gas prices were way down, the price has hovered above US$3 a gallon since 2021.

    Shelby, who claimed he was forced to sell his entire harvest at a loss, said he would still vote for Trump, calling him the “only qualified businessman who has been in there in years and years”.

    “You cannot please everybody,” he added, but stressed that “somebody is going to get hurt, you know. But appropriations need to be made … but I believe that he is the only person who could turn this around.”

    He acknowledged that “it is hurting a lot of people” and that a “majority of them will still side with him”.

    For now, Shelby is focused on immediate concerns.

    “We don’t even know what to plan to plant for next year …” he said. “Do we plant a bunch of beans again if we’re not even gonna have a market for [it]?”
     
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    According to the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, farm bankruptcy filings rose to 93 in the second quarter, up from 88 in the first and nearly double the 47 at the end of 2024. There were 216 bankruptcies in 2024.

    A July report from the University of Arkansas Division of Agriculture noted that in 2019, 599 Chapter 12 bankruptcies were filed across the US, the highest in at least a decade, which allows farmers to restructure debt and continue operations. By 2021, that number had fallen to 276.

    The mental toll of the financial stress has been devastating, with local and anecdotal reports of suicide among farmers.

    New analysis by the American Farm Bureau Federation projects heavy 2025–26 losses across major crops, including US$15.1 billion for corn, US$6.7 billion for soybeans, nearly US$5.9 billion for wheat and US$3.4 billion for cotton. Sorghum and rice producers each face losses exceeding US$1 billion.

    According to the US Department of Agriculture, farm production expenses are expected to reach US$467.4 billion for 2025, a US$12 billion increase over 2024.

    Who would’ve thought that racism and trans hysteria wouldn’t be able to pay the bills?

    none of them deserve a handout
     
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  18. The Captain

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    That’s some cultist rhetoric right there.
     
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  19. Agent94

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    That's pretty much why government cheese exists, to stabilize the dairy farm industry. Now you have large corporation like pizza chains getting discount cheese, dairy farmers paying a tax to fund those "got milk" commercials, and billions of pounds of cheese stored in caves around the country.

    It always ends up a cluster f*ck when the governments involved, but I still think I would go the government cheese route over multi-billion dollar bailouts every few years.

     
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  20. Agent94

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    These bailout don't even end up going to farmers. It goes to the agricorp monopolies because that's who the farms owe their debt. It's more corporate welfare.

     

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