Oh, did that go over your head? When the ONLY competent games come against teams missing half their starters or the literal worst team in the NFL, what does that say about your performance? Also, the conversation is about what CJ needs to improve in order to stop being the cause of Texans losses....not a conversation about who is a better QB, CJ or Mills. In fact, I flat out spelled that part out, and yet somehow you found a way to pretend to misunderstand anyway. In the past you've been intelligent enough to follow along in conversation, what changed? Have you recently experienced a head injury?
You can't really take anything away from the Niners game, they were missing 10 players on defense to injury.
Nah. You’re not terribly insightful. It was a fairly easy read. Right. Black QB is dumb. We get it. In addition to your post lacking any insight, it was also devoid of any surprise. Good question. I do feel noticeably dumber after reading your post.
I understand what you are saying, but it's a lot easier to execute any scheme against 2nd and 3rd string players. Either way, IMO next week is most important. If we start executing then and continue as even a league average offense the rest of the season....which means 23 points per game, every game, the start of the season will be forgiven. With CJ the Texans have only hit 23 points against the Ravens missing tons of players, the Niners missing literally 10 guys on defense alone, and the absolute worst team in the league. Give us average and no more, every game, and the Texans are 9-2 right now.
Oh, is that why you are throwing a tantrum? Gotcha. Can't criticize certain QB's or you get that kind of response I guess, at least among the kinds of people who no one should pay any attention to. I'll spell things out for you, since you operate at such a pathetic level. CJ is dumb because CJ is dumb. Has nothing to do with what he looks like. There are absolutely brilliant black QB's, and there are complete moron black QB's. This isn't the 1950's, you don't have to STILL be this basic. CJ holds on to the ball too long, doesn't feel pressure coming, often has no clue where that pressure would even be coming from. This leads to CJ taking drive killing sacks that hurt the team. Mills, despite having MUCH less talent, gets the ball out quicker than anyone in the NFL, which leads to fewer drive killing sacks, which has lead to more success. I'm not saying Mills is a better QB than CJ, I'm just pointing out where CJ needs to improve to get back to being the QB he was his rookie season.....but then again, dipshits like you won't allow for certain types to be criticized at all for really feeble minded reasons. It's tiresome.
Agreed, but this really comes down to, do you prefer natural talent, or do you prefer brains/ability to process over natural talent? BTW, it isn't like Mills is a scrub talentwise either. I'm going with CJ because this year should really be about finding out if CJ should be extended and for how much. Unfortunately CJ most likely will get extended regardless of how he plays because Houston is a minority town and the McNair's are all about selling tickets.
Are you saying CJ knows the offense as well as Davis, or that he gets through his reads as fast as Davis, or he can identify where the blitzers are coming from as well as Davis? You dont know that they would've beaten Denver with CJ. Remember all of the eggs that were laid in the 2nd half this year? Tell me this, how many games this year has CJ lead a league avg offense? With all of this said I'm for starting CJ.
Go back and look at the drive chart in the second half of the denver and buffalo games. Almost couldn’t have been worse, I guess the only thing worse would have been a barrage of turnovers. So credit for that I guess. But couldn’t take advantage of short fields, turnovers, nothing. It was really, really bad. I actually didn’t think the performance against Tennessee was that bad, it was a weird game. And obviously a super clutch throw at the end. The 2nd half/4th Q against jacksonville was awesome. I like Davis Mills. He’s poised and he’s a good backup. I like him on the team. Why are we doing the CJ vs. Mills thing. Just….why? Nobody that isn’t doing a first take tryout actually believes Mills should start over him.
I'm in the start CJ crowd, but Mills obviously understands the offense better and is smarter than CJ. That's not a knock on CJ either, Mills is smarter than 95% of Americans, he was a 4.0 student at Stanford.
CJ has more natural accuracy than Mills. That’s the true separator with those two. Mills is a better athlete, but neither have the mindset to use their legs. Arm talent is negligible. Arm strength isn’t a concern for either. Upside goes to CJ, due to the accuracy and ball placement he has shown in the past. The problem is he hasn’t been good outside of a game and a half this season. He has to start stringing good starts together. Mills is a back up, he is still young enough to maybe get a shot somewhere and hopefully we can get something of value if that’s the case. Regardless, CJ needs to show consistency soon, so that big price tag will be warranted.
Isn't there a CJ Stroud thread on this board? You guys arguing in the game thread are harshing my mellow
When did learning a new offensive system become dumb? And which part of his thourougly mediocre play made you think Mills had the system down? He couldn’t complete 60% of his passes; routinely missed - either didn’t see or couldn’t connect with - wide-open wide receivers, and for long stretches of games, he couldn’t move the offense an inch. That’s the guy you Stroud is Dumb truthers think has mastered the offense?….
Good lord…. Did you really just claim Davis Mills is a better athlete than CJ Stroud? Brain rot is setting in among the fan base……
Yes. That really isn’t a hot take. Davis Mills was the number one recruit in the nation coming into college. And ran a 4.58 and 4.66 at his pro-day. CJ has never been a good athlete, he’s an average one that can take yards that are given to him. It’s ok you can’t be objective, but don’t claim brain rot on something you have no idea what you’re talking about.
This just in, some people are smarter than others and Mills is smarter than 95% of people. When I said Mills is smarter than CJ it's not a negative towards CJ. Mills is most likely smarter that you and I are. What makes me think that Mills knows the offense better is that he gets rid of the ball much quicker and knows where his receivers are on the field. The fact that he doesn't turn the ball over much should tell you this. When you get rid of the ball instead of taking sacks your completion percentage will be lower, but you will keep your team out of bad situations. (You know this.) I'm all for CJ starting because the Texans org needs to find out if CJ's the guy. To be honest, CJ hasn't looked like the guy the last couple of yrs. Lets hope his mind catches up to his talent level.
CJ just needs to stop holding on to the ball so long and then there's not much of an argument for Mills. Neither one has been all that great but there's definitely been that tradeoff.
