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DOGE having access to government agencies is illegal

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    It ran Elron out of Washington?
     
  2. rimrocker

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    DOGE is officially dead, eight months before originally intended--according to OPM, it no longer exists as a "centralized entity."

    One of the greatest failures in modern government. Not only did it not save any money, it left massive inefficiencies and created human misery and death on a vast scale. Not surprisingly, government spending was not only higher in FY 2025, but higher than projected when Trump was inaugurated.

    Of course, the goal of DOGE was never efficiency. Instead, it was aimed at crippling government oversight of industry, destroying government functions that Musk did not like (for whatever reason), and the stealing of our public datasets. So I guess when you look at it that way, it's a big success.

    There better be a huge plank in the next Democratic Party platform for forensic accounting and IT security reviews of every agency DOGE touched.
     
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    I do wonder if Dems in Congress or some Democratic group is currently gathering evidence on all these Trump regime criminals, ICE officers, etc

    along with a database of every single change this regime has done no matter how small

    there will be so many prosecutions that need to take place and so much damage to undo, and the time to start gathering evidence and thinking about how you’ll undo everything won’t be after you regain power

    we see how fast this regime is moving…it’s because they had everything planned out beforehand, and they had spent years doing it
     
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  4. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Project 25. It was all there.

    As for prosecuting, that’s only if Trump doesn’t issue mass pardons on the way out. The only way I see this happening is a sudden change in the presidency.
     
  5. Andre0087

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    They need to be focused on potential state crimes against this lawless administration where applicable but they'll probably be on some let's move forward together bullshit. If they do that I'll never vote Democrat again...
     
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  6. Amiga

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    We may never fully know what systems DOGE accessed, what code they deployed, which security protocols they modified, or where sensitive data ended up. The audit trail, if one even exists, could take years to untangle. One thing is certain: it's a cybersecurity nightmare that should never be allowed to happen again.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Exactly. It was a way remove accountability
     
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  8. Amiga

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    But Musk was 100% transparent, like how he's a free speech absolutist. I wonder if people are still falling for it.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    We? no we do not know anything. Its highly sensitive data that WE are not privy to nor should we be.

    However you will have to explain why they (whoever they would be) wouldn't know this information. Or is this wild baseless speculation?
     
  10. Amiga

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    We have substantial documented evidence that serious breaches occurred, from multiple credible sources including whistleblower disclosures, court findings, and cybersecurity expert analyses. What we may never fully know is the complete extent... which specific systems were compromised, what data ended up where, and whether vulnerabilities still exist... because audit logs were deliberately disabled and monitoring systems were turned off.

    Your "highly sensitive data that WE are not privy to nor should we be" completely misses the point. We don't need access to classified secrets to demand accountability for whether DOGE illegally accessed Americans' private data or left gov systems vulnerable... then and possibly still now.

    This isn't about partisan politics. It's about basic cybersecurity and whether our personal information was compromised. Yet here you are, once again reflexively defending DOGE / Musk on what should be a straightforward security concern that transcends party lines. You again show here that you absolutely do not care about accountability when it's your side.
     
  11. Sajan

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    He is an Elon dk rider. Leave him be.
     
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    everybody's information are being sold on the dark web to the highest bidder. allowing DOGE to access US' citizens information was down right a MAJOR violation to the people and this won't be visited prolly until another 5 years.
     
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  13. Rocket River

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    Yep
    DOGE Accomplished its main Goal
    1. "Clean up" all the databases to tell the story Elon and nen want told
    2. Gather all American Information to be used later or sold

    That is ALL they wanted to do
    Everything else was distraction
    Name 1 think that Doge has done in the last 2 months

    Rocket River
     
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    Will they ever unravel how Musk's DOUSCHE has allowed Trump and his cabinet to pilfer the Treasury of that tariff money? (Don't tell me they believe their own bulls*** on tariffs being good for the economy.)
     
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    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Don't be naive and think the DOGE mission and actors aren't still around. They are.
     
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    I have a feeling just about everyone in his administration will get a pardon and it will be masked as retribution from the incoming Admin but we all will know they were behind the scenes breaking any law that stands in there way...................hell, they can't even prosecute Comey because they have no one competent around tramp. I guess the gop led congress is not going to do anything, WTF are they doing because it's not working for "The People" as they have given full control to their wanna be king
     
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    The GOP Congress is complicit in sitting back, knowing Trump and others are breaking laws left and right, and doing nothing to stop it. The grift is real. The conflicts of interest for Trump and his family and business associates are all over the world. For once they need to stand by their oaths, and work together with Democrats to remove that lying con and criminal out of office for good. The constant lies, loyalists surrounding him, and less than qualified people leading this country surround him.

    Vote to impeach that lunatic! He's unhinged and dangerous, and he's worried more about coddling other dictators and people who fund his real estate ventures, crypto, golf clubs, and other business ventures more than anything else. Have cash? Give it to me and we'll talk. Tit for tat. He will do more damage to the environment, the people, addressing climate change, democracy, and putting people's health at risk than any modern leader of the Western world. His health problems, mental illness, and continuous lying are staring them all in the face. He can't be trusted to ever speak the truth. His "appointed" loyalists will echo his lies and defend him. They know it. They see it. He's unfit to lead!
     
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  18. rimrocker

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    The problem with impeachment now is the line of succession. Vance and Johnson are both horrible choices to be president. If Republicans are on board, Johnson would need to be replaced as Speaker with someone approving of impeachment. If Democrats grab the Speakership, you'd need to impeach both Pres and VP with a Democrat in the Speaker's chair who is more widely accepted than Jeffries and I don't know who that would be in the House. And then there is the Senate role.

    Also, impeachment would rally the GOP base just when there are serious fractures happening. There's a strong argument that says let Trump just waste away and then watch them eat their own as everyone tries to replicate the Trump formula and define themselves as the true heir and leader of MAGA. Of course, that path has a lot of human misery along the way.

    Bad choices create bad options and repeated really bad choices create really bad options.
     
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    If he is impeached for TREASON then the whole line is invalidated . .. right?

    Rocket River
     
  20. Andre0087

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    We don't need to bail the GOP out or the voters who wanted this mess with an impeachment. Let this fester for his entire term so that those who suffer might remember next election cycle and beyond.
     

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