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Why would anyone have a problem with working 80 hours a month

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by strosb4bros, Oct 30, 2025 at 11:35 PM.

  1. tinman

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    It's pretty crazy that Trump is trying to starve people out as a negotiation strategy. And you can say 'both sides' about the shutdown because either party could choose to stand down. But it is not both sides on SNAP. The admin resisted using contingency funds to fund it, which is not something Democrats are even empowered to do. And when the courts tell them the contingency funds must be used, they're still slow walking it, asking the court to tell them how to do their own job, even though in every other arena they arendoing stuff without any blessings of the court. They think they can get the Democrats to crack if they starve people and somehow not lose votes. Crazy. Makes me think of the Bible story where a woman tells Solomon another woman stole her baby so Solomon says he will split the baby, only to give to the baby to the woman who relents first because she cares for the baby's welfare. Trump is counting on Democrats caring about people's welfare so he can get the whole thing himself.

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    Hostage?

    p.s. Not at all crazy. What’s truly no longer crazy is when some people support this as a negotiation strategy.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    5 years or so of that damn near killed me

    Dude, aren't you a Salvadoran anchor baby?
     
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    All of you people, every one of you, can straight up go **** yourselves. Just garbage humanity.
     
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    If their employee gets 200$ in Food Stamps
    I'd say about 150-180$ of it is probably spent IN WALMART

    So the Government subsidizes Walmart by giving its underpaid employees money for food
    Then the employees take that money and spend it at walmart
    Sweet Racket Walmart has there

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    Basically . . .CHOOSE: Food or Healthcare
    You can only have one

    That is the Republican thinking

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  8. strosb4bros

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    Let me get this straight --- you want to triple SNAP funding, which is $110 billion a year in 2025, to $330 billion why?

    That IS a large amount no matter how you slice it.

    So families of 5 can get... $3000 a month for food instead of $1000? A woman with 5 kids can get $4500? How much would you give out for a proposed UBI? Why would anyone have an incentive to work ?
     
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    SNAP is 110 billion a year for food for Americans, many of them women and children… how much did President Limp Dick give Argentina and their weirdo leader? 60 billion?

    GTFO
     
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    35% of grocery food store goes to waste -- we don't have a supply issue in terms of feeding people in this country. We have a demand issue when it comes to healthy food, so the current move to disallow use of junk food and pop on these vouchers is a no brainer.

    But you only have a few states following that atm -- SNAP Food Restriction Waivers | Food and Nutrition Service

    So you've definitely got people operating under the pretense that filling your cart to the brim with junk food is a way of life, and then taxpayers should once again fund the healthcare services of those poor choices.

    A single mom with 4 kids gets more than my family of 5 spends on groceries in a month, although we buy in bulk from heritage farms and my wife enjoys cooking. Maybe those principles should be imparted to keep prices down instead of inhaling every sugary carb you can find.
     
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    The average Walmart frontline (cashier, greeter, etc) employee averages $18-20+ an hour. They're not on SNAP.
     
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    Once again you ignore the root of the problem because you want to signal how liberal you are. Incentivizing people to work to get handouts isn't backwards logic. It's called basic functioning society. When you have tens of millions of adults who don't need to work to get living expenses for their kids, they won't ever take the next step. And how strong are the systems to keep track of who is being honest about their living situation or not? There's only thousands of videos of people laughing at how easy it is to exploit EBT.

    I'm not, and no one I know of , is suggested to get rid of SNAP. It's about cutting out the disincentive for upward mobility and forever exploiting a system while popping out kids you can't afford. I'm more in favor of standardizing the minimum wage at $15.
     
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    I'm sorry but lobbyists don't control what people eat and how much they exercise.

    That's the television's job.
     
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    Jon Stewart made a good point earlier, and Manchin agreed: we spend so much time b!tching and moaning about the few hundreds of millions called "welfare" that goes to poor people while we don't bat an eye at the hundreds of billions that go to corporations.
     
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    It's hundreds of billions , not millions, so auditing is absolutley called for.

    You wanna tax corporations a little more - go ahead. But they have shown time and time again they have the resources to get up and move and fire workers. Many are only situated in an area because of tax breaks promised by the govt.

    Amazon halts Virginia HQ construction, AOC declares 'we were right' to criticize construction in New York | Mashable

    Amazon was slated to receive $3 billion in tax incentives in exchange for choosing Queens, New York for its second headquarters. The facility, dubbed HQ2, faced backlash from AOC and local politicians over the deal that was being cut to bring the ecommerce giant to the state.

    efore construction would begin, Amazon decided to move to Arlington, Virginia instead. Progressive politicians like AOC were heavily criticized at the time by proponents of the project like the now-disgraced then-Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo, who claimed Amazon would bring jobs to the state.

    As the new Bloomberg report lays out, construction in Virginia will complete on the first portion of the HQ2 facility in time to bring around 8,000 workers into the office by June.


    that's alot of 70-120k jobs the area loses because they don't want to give tax breaks.
     
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    Giving people cash (UBI) is stupid although it will likely happen in some form eventually. The fact is the people that 'need' it the most are also some of the most irresponsible people when it comes to money. No, I do not support UBI. Its a terrible idea and all it does is win a politician a vote.

    Good healthy food (however you want to define that) is very important for a healthy population (our country in this context). So no, I do not have a problem handing out healthy food to everyone.
     
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    Free water or free soda? Which do you think a SNAP recipient will take on average?
     
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    Hourly wage does not equate annual income. Im certain you've debated this before.
     
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    And now Amazon is planning to automate over 500,000 jobs in places where they received tax breaks. Should states demand a tax rebate from the company that they gave money away to now that Amazon is gleefully automating the local economy?
     
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    Nay, the logic is simply backward.

    The backward logic is that you completely ignore the people who cannot work. You do realize there are individuals who genuinely can’t work, right? What do you propose we do with them? Let them die of starvation? Because that’s essentially your solution when you require 80 hours of work per month.
     

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