1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

?

Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

    94.0%
  2. NO

    6.0%
  1. Phillyrocket

    Phillyrocket Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    14,702
    Likes Received:
    11,956
    Reed is doing exactly what we should want. Hitting his 3s and slowly improving on ball handling, defense, etc.

    He’s basically a rookie. If he would have been drafted by the Wizards, and started and featured, he would have been ROY, and much further along in development.

    I think he’s great off the bench and getting enough minutes. Okogie is fine to start while Reed gets his feet wet.
     
  2. glimmertwins

    glimmertwins Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    7,029
    Likes Received:
    5,783
    I don’t if you are familiar with the concept of defense but no one scouting Castle’s upside were thinking he would be an all star from his offense alone - he was scouted as a high level defender with some scoring skills who one would hope would turn into a reliable shooter. Castle can learn to improve his shooting - Reed can’t learn height and likely is not going to pick up physicality as a skill very easily given how he avoids contact today. I’m not saying Reed doesn’t have upside - but his size was always going to put him at a disadvantage unless his shooting and hands were truly elite and so far both are good, but not necessarily exceptional by NBA standards.
     
    roslolian and daywalker02 like this.
  3. Landry's Tooth

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2020
    Messages:
    4,617
    Likes Received:
    2,848
    Well, Curry wasn't good enough to get drafted at the same age... so it's not really apples to apples.
     
  4. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    101,626
    Likes Received:
    50,571
    380 pages are worthy of a Legendary Franchise Player.
     
    MGC and roslolian like this.
  5. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    101,626
    Likes Received:
    50,571
    I think the landing place is also important, Castle landing in San Antonio with a great traditional bball program is great for him.

    Shooting comes and goes but he will become a fundamentally sound player within the Spurs program.

    The funny thing is that the Spurs have the luxury to dispatch Fox off the bench.....that is rarefied....
    Not that they are doing it but that option is phenomenal.


     
    #7585 daywalker02, Oct 29, 2025 at 1:42 AM
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2025 at 1:50 AM
    glimmertwins likes this.
  6. Landry's Tooth

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2020
    Messages:
    4,617
    Likes Received:
    2,848
    Castle can learn to shoot, just like Reed can learn to improve his footwork.

    The scouting on Reed was he was a good 2 way player. He shows signs of it.

    Will Castle develop as a shooter? Most don't.

    There's a reason they drafted a guard with their top pick.
     
    Mr. Dominant likes this.
  7. Landry's Tooth

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2020
    Messages:
    4,617
    Likes Received:
    2,848
    What's interesting is last year when Castle and Victor played together the spurs were a below average defense... maybe have to make sacrifices in the other roles defensively to make up for offensive limitations.
     
    glimmertwins likes this.
  8. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    101,626
    Likes Received:
    50,571
    Victor is also not the same player, he went thru a blood clot situation that was career threatening....gave him life perspective.

    Now he is dominating inside the paint more instead of just trying to hoist up shots on the perimeter.
    Works out with Hakeem the Dream.

    Likely less arrogant too which does not bode well for the entire league!

     
  9. Corrosion

    Corrosion Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    10,302
    Likes Received:
    13,705
    @ Reed ..... please stop picking up your dribble.
     
  10. Rokman

    Rokman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    6,538
    Likes Received:
    7,902
    Not saying he can become FVV on the defensive end because he's not FVV but what a great mentor for a smaller player to have to help build up the knowledge of how he needs to play defensively to last in this league and help his team win.
     
  11. N2bnfunn

    N2bnfunn Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2014
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    396
    You need to shopping for a new Tv his game is just ok that is it
     
    kokozo likes this.
  12. Mr. Dominant

    Mr. Dominant Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2007
    Messages:
    10,176
    Likes Received:
    5,761
  13. Francis3422

    Francis3422 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2000
    Messages:
    9,146
    Likes Received:
    7,433
    Reed is fine. Slow burn. Give him 1.25 yrs.
     
  14. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    30,826
    Likes Received:
    20,978
    They drafted a guard because they know you go BPA in the draft and Harper was clear BPA at 2.

    Rockets passed on Castle like how Blazers passed on Jordan. I know Castle isnt as good as Jordan but Reed is trending to be a career backup and isnt even as good as Sam Bowie.
     
  15. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    30,826
    Likes Received:
    20,978
    This is the same dude posting Reed "highlight" when the dude made only 1 shot and was 1/6 so far.
     
  16. Newlin

    Newlin Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2015
    Messages:
    9,018
    Likes Received:
    11,589
    If Reed had played four years of college ball like FVV, he would probably be a solid floor general. I understand why guys come out early, but sometimes it’s really too early. And for some reason people now expect these very young players to be good NBA players as soon as the enter the league.
     
  17. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    30,826
    Likes Received:
    20,978
    I agree. But also that just proves we goofed on the top 3 pick. You dont pick a 4 yr player with the top 3 pick. Guys like TSJ are late lotto at best.
     
  18. sheb

    sheb Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    903
    Because top draft picks are expected to contribute. Not be a net negative +/- every game
     
    roslolian likes this.
  19. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    21,243
    Likes Received:
    22,783
    By who? Top draft picks don't know how to win anything till their 2nd or 3rd seasons. They land on bad teams which drags down their advanced numbers. They're almost always mistake-prone.

    If you're looking for players that are not negative, you'd typically look for older guys with more experience rather than the teenagers in the draft. Those players have lower ceilings though.

    The ideal player to get with a high draft pick is someone uber talented and very raw who you can build from scratch rather than hope the G League or college or Europe does a good job. If you're lucky, once every 5 years those guys will be net positives in year 1. To expect that to be your guy is not reasonable.

    Some projects are worth a high pick. If we improve his ball handling and strength, this guy could be worth $30m a year by the time his rookie contract is up. Passable defense, responsible playmaking and elite 3pt shot = very good player. It's not far and we have a great development staff if nothing else.

    Also the boxscore +/- is not a reliable tool for determining who's doing their job and who's not. Udoka has said this a few times, your assessments are going to be all over the place if you use it that way.
     
  20. postaboi713

    postaboi713 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    370
    Steph Curry at Davidson is a better player than 2nd year pro Reed.
     

Share This Page