OT, the Hill conveniently ommitted to mention the previous renovations didnot start in the middle of a Gov shutdown this spin is as intellectually dishonet as these convenient lies Trump started his business career w a small loan from his father donald was a trust fund baby, had already inherited $ 1 million by age 8 in total, had inherited over $400 milion from his father Obama was not US born Newsom's family was weathy
So if the GOP wants the Shutdown to end.. Why don't they just call the Dems and talk??? I don't know.. sounds like the adult thing to do... T_Man
Or maybe they don’t actually want the government open and always wanted the shutdown in order to consolidate power with the executive? The tell here is keeping the house out of session and trying to confuse Americans that a government shutdown and congressional recess are the same thing. The reason Congress is still paid in a shutdown is because they are supposed to still be doing their job.
The GOP could always invoke "the nuclear option" if they wanted to end this. Instead, their primary goal is to get the Dems to capitulate and share responsibility with Trump and the Republicans for destroying health care. It's about forcing Democrats to submit more than anything else. If they capitulate here they are surrendering as an opposition to Donnie's arbitrary whims, like the entire GOP has done.
Exactly. They have the power to eliminate the filibuster and, if I'm thinking like a GOP strategist, doing that might make the most sense to achieve the party's goals. The Senate is so structurally-biased toward minority rule that it's difficult to envision Democrats ever holding 51 seats for very long, much less sniffing 60.
The Republicans know that a lot of the Democratic leadership is weak and ineffective -- Republican leadership believes that they can flip the blame onto Democrats and the Democrats won't know how to respond but fold.
The Democrats could have avoided or ended the shutdown at any point, simply by passing a clean CR. They don't want to end the shutdown, they want to leverage the shutdown to get their way. The Republicans could end the shutdown by passing the Dems bill, but they really have no incentive to do so. They are happy to have the shutdown and let Trump start firing people and defunding programs. Both parties would be disadvantaged by capitulating, but the Democrats are also disadvantaged by holding out, they are coming from a position of weakness. The best the Democrats can hope for is to make political hay out of it.
gift link https://www.wsj.com/opinion/schumer...3?st=3QAotK&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink Schumer Shutdown Not Helping Schumer Futile, stupid gesture unlikely to protect him from leftist primary challenge. By James Freeman Oct. 28, 2025 1:40 pm ET Cracks are appearing in the foundation of Democrats’ coalition to keep the government closed, and perhaps not a moment too soon for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.). Nearly a month into his gambit of refusing to fund the government until Republicans agree to massive subsidies for people who are nowhere near poor, registered voters appear to be even more disapproving of the job Mr. Schumer is doing than they were before the shutdown started. That’s according to the latest Economist/YouGov poll, which now finds him an abysmal 31 points underwater. A mere 26% of registered voters approve of the way Mr. Schumer is handling his job as minority leader, while 57% disapprove. The Economist/YouGov results may be especially troubling for Democrats because this is a survey that consistently reports among the worst ratings for President Trump. Yet even in this poll Mr. Trump appears wildly popular compared with Mr. Schumer, who has somehow managed to sink to 38 points underwater among independents. Since Mr. Schumer is the face of the Democratic shutdown, his party colleagues in swing districts may view this as a warning from voters. And what about those progressives who goaded Mr. Schumer into the shutdown stunt by demanding a more confrontational approach after he opposed a similar stunt in March? They’re either a bunch of ingrates or a much smaller share of the Democratic electorate than one would think from their loud media presence—or perhaps both. During the shutdown Mr. Schumer’s ratings among Democrats and self-described liberals have markedly declined compared to a late September Economist/YouGov survey. This suggests that if he ignored his own advice and pursued a shutdown in hopes of avoiding a primary challenge from the leftist likes of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), he may end up bitterly disappointed. Meanwhile there are people who have become more approving of Mr. Schumer’s handling of his job during the shutdown—Republicans and self-described conservatives. Perhaps he has a future as a libertarian candidate, winning over people who enjoy life immensely when government is not fully functional. Or perhaps they just think the Schumer shutdown is a political gift to the GOP. Despite his burgeoning Republican support, leading his own party probably won’t get any easier for this singularly unpopular figure among the congressional leadership. Given this week’s loss of shutdown support from a major union of government employees, Mr. Schumer may once again be hearing primal screams about legislative strategy from his party colleagues.
