1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Ukraine

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    66,033
    Likes Received:
    33,657
    Everyone knew the Red Sparrow has been working for Putin for quite some time

    #TrumpsHandler
    #TrumpIsHerAsset

    Rocket River
     
    Andre0087 likes this.
  2. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    34,002
    Likes Received:
    9,706
    Red Sparrow?
     
  3. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    66,033
    Likes Received:
    33,657
    [​IMG]

    Rocket River
     
  4. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    34,002
    Likes Received:
    9,706
  5. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    34,002
    Likes Received:
    9,706
    keep your eye on the (red) sparrow.

     
  6. Kemahkeith

    Kemahkeith Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2018
    Messages:
    4,839
    Likes Received:
    6,746
    AKA Krasnov
     
    ROCKSS likes this.
  7. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Okogie Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    83,248
    Likes Received:
    123,515
  8. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    105,146
    Likes Received:
    108,404
    Our Secretary of Defense wore a Russian flag necktie to his meeting with Zelensky

    [​IMG]
     
    ROCKSS likes this.
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    23,240
    Likes Received:
    13,205

    They guy even looks like a Russian asset. Like the obvious bad guy/hydra member from a captain america movie.
     
    dobro1229 and ROCKSS like this.
  10. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    105,146
    Likes Received:
    108,404
  11. astros123

    astros123 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    15,502
    Likes Received:
    13,523
    Post the full link. Its even embarrassing

     
  12. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    105,146
    Likes Received:
    108,404
    No Worries and Ottomaton like this.
  13. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    34,002
    Likes Received:
    9,706
    huh; what other country can you think of whose flag is red white and blue?
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    105,146
    Likes Received:
    108,404
    You need a refresher course at the University.
     
  15. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    34,002
    Likes Received:
    9,706
    the netherlands?
     
  16. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    26,042
    Likes Received:
    22,948
    Please stop talking to us like we are idiots. Be better than the other MAGA trolls please.

    Ties aside, this meeting was obviously a meeting that was designed to turn the screws on Ukraine to accept a deal that would have given Putin a significant portion of Ukraine with little assurance Putin wouldn't come back months later to take even more, and kill more Ukrainians.

    So if Hegseth wasn't wearing a tie that was meant to send a message to Zelensky he probably should have. Zelensky knows, I know, and even you know that the Trump White House is a hostile place for the democratic countries of Europe to be, and a place that will side with Putin on damn near everything because they are at least ideological allies. Maybe they are still tied to Europe financially due to the post WW2 arms infrastructure, but ideologically you would be kidding yourself if you thought otherwise.

    So I'll ask you this seriously for once.... do you really think that Hegseth.... regardless of his tie color.... was not intent in that meeting to send a message to Zelensky that this was a place where the United States has his back??

    To me the message was clear... Accept Putin's terms, or Russia will blow your country to sh$t, and we will do nothing to stand in his way.
     
    ROCKSS and rockbox like this.
  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    23,240
    Likes Received:
    13,205
    You would assume the guy that runs the DOD has situational awareness. If you can't understand that, you are a lost cause.
     
    dobro1229 likes this.
  18. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    26,042
    Likes Received:
    22,948
    I can't speak to Trump 2.0's stupidity, but I can say that in prior administrations, these meetings were always extremely well orchestrated. These meetings are about as well orchestrated typically as a broadway show. Gaffe's happen, but if the Secretary of Defense wearing a tie that resembles the flag of the world leader's adversary is a gaffe, it would be like the wardrobe coordinator on the new Superman Movie accidentally putting batman's black cape on Superman and the director James Gunn randomly missing that detail.

    So people like Basso dismissing it... if they are dismissing it as a gaffe... are at best admitting that Trump's people are complete morons.
     
    ROCKSS likes this.
  19. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    33,409
    Likes Received:
    21,344
    I disagree.

    To me the clear message was ... between the two of Putin and Zelensky Trump thinks that he will have better luck twisting Zelensky's arm than Putin's to get a deal done. Getting a peace deal done is what Trump is all about, since a peace deal would increase Trump's chances of the Nobel Peace Prize.
     
  20. ROCKSS

    ROCKSS Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    8,126
    Likes Received:
    9,031
    Wow.....a real shocker, the Putin Tramp summit has already dissolved, tramp is a paper lion compared to putin, when is tramp going to realize he is being played like the chump he is.....................Art of the Deal LOL

    tramp couldn't twist Zelensky`s arm to quit the war so tramps boss cut off the meeting.................Tramp should be up for Time`s annual award of CUCK of the YEAR

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now