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White Women - Politics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Oct 17, 2025 at 10:22 AM.

  1. Rocket River

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    Intriguing
    How accurate do you think this lady is?

    I dunno if the term "sicker" is needed but that is clickbait
    (I guess it got me)

    Rocket River
     
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  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Gemini TLDR because I sure tf don't want to watch this ****


    • The Patriarchal Contract (The Moral Economy of Misogyny): Historically, white women have been taught that safety comes from alignment with their husband, church, and flag [00:46]. This is referred to as the "patriarchal bargain," where women are rewarded for conformity and punished for defiance, serving to enforce a hierarchical order where white women's "purity" has been used to justify systemic racism and segregation [01:05].
    • Voting for Nostalgia as Safety: In 2016, Trump's support among white women was fueled by a feeling of "white fright"—a fear of social change and a desire for a "rewind" to a version of America where white men reigned and white women were "safely beside them" [02:10]. They voted for nostalgia as safety [02:59].
    • Moral Enforcers: Many white women act as moral enforcers, using disgust to police the boundaries of goodness. They may call Trump vulgar but ultimately see him as the "less disgusting option," one who protects them from perceived threats like "feminists, immigrants or woke ideology" [03:46]. They are voting for order, not recognizing that order and cruelty are often the same thing in this context.
    • The Protector King: For many Christian women, Trump fulfills the role of a protector and defender chosen by God, shielding them from the "woke liberal elite" [04:30]. His persona evolved from "devil-make masculinity" in 2016 to a "protective fatherly" figure in 2024, making obedience feel safe [06:11].
    • The Paradox of the Protected: This sense of protection is dependent on an infinite threat [06:38]. Media fuels fear (crime waves, border invasions, gender chaos), which constantly reactivates the emotional contract [06:46]. The ultimate paradox is that the safer the protected women feel, "the smaller the rest of us become" [12:03].
    • The Contrast: While white women often vote to preserve safety within a hierarchy, Black women and other women of color consistently vote to create safety and expand democracy from the margins through organizing [09:32].
    • The Rebranded Contract: The logic of control endures, even adapting to the language of liberation. The "new conservative feminism" uses terms like "choice" and "empowerment" to ultimately defend patriarchal outcomes (e.g., using Amy Coney Barrett as a role model) [09:53].
     
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  3. Rocket River

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    After the Abortion ban
    It seems people expected too much of them

    Rocket River
     
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  4. El_Conquistador

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    Now do African American women. They vote in a monolithic bloc more than any other group. Overwhelmingly liberal, despite being the least successful group statistically for a very long time.
     
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    Around 45% of white women voted for Kamala. Around 7% of black women voted for Trump.
     
  6. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    It's a mystery to me that any woman would vote Trump or GOP. But Trump got reelected and the GOP controls both houses of Congress so..../shrug
     
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    They want economic prosperity, peace, and safety. Trump is delivering on all three... while Democrats haven't done anything except shutdown the government.


    GOOD DAY
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    Because the liberals have been on the side of Civil Rights and the conservatives have been against them.
     
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    I am amazed when I see any Woman with a maga gat on at these rally`s, hell even more shocked when a young woman is in one..............then I have to look at my own family and yep, there is my Mom and my Neice who support him, I can't even fathom what they see in him
     
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  10. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Perhaps they see policies and initiatives that are creating peace, security, and prosperity?


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  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The video starts from the position that the Democrats are right and the Republicans are wrong. Then she tries to explain why so many white women would chose to be wrong. If you don't implicitly agree with the original premise, the rest is nonsense.
     
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  12. krosfyah

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    In our lifetime, black women have been the target of government profiling.
    At no time in our lifetime have white women been the target of government profiling. White women have not been lynched or jailed or or or.

    The worst crime that white women have suffered is gender discrimination in the workplace. Ironically, white women were the biggest beneficiary of the civil rights movement as gender equality has continuously improved ever since.

    More succinct, if you are a white woman, you feel safer walking the streets of Chicago. If you are a black woman, you do not feel safer.

    Unfortunately, the democrats have not addressed the main problem. The wage discrepancy between the ultra-rich and the middle class. Obviously, Trump hasn't addressed it either. Instead, he uses fear tactics to divide Americans and pit us against each other to remain in power.
     
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    Women have been targeted - and that can include white women and any other shade or creed… there is a difference between gender and ethnicity. However it would be inaccurate to say white women haven’t been targeted at times, because they are still women.

    Also no- I don’t agree with the premise that white women feel safer walking the streets in Chicago. The majority of white women in Chicago didn’t vote for Trump. Further, the administration has attacked reproductive rights and promoted rapists and abusive men.

    So it isn’t that simple. Religion, upbringing and personal prejudices and politics all play into it- as well as individual life experiences of particular white women.
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    OK some interesting points, but I disagree in a couple of places.

    1) In the Chicago street example... I'd say white women are the larger target of crime because they'd be seen as wealthier (on average) compared to black women... and white women are very security-minded and would likely be afraid to even walk the streets of Chicago, with perhaps the exception of the luxury shopping district.

    2) I do not view the wage discrepancy between rich and middle classes as the "main problem". For me, as an economic thought leader, the goals should always be GDP growth, job creation, velocity of money, increases in capital investments, and increases in labor productivity. Equal opportunity (not outcome) in a strong, growing economy is the best case scenario. Then let the best contributors rise to the top. I think this has largely been achieved, as the market is highly efficient. Obviously there will always be exceptions to the rule, though.


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  15. krosfyah

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    Dude, don't be obtuse. Black women have been targeted 100-1 more than white women. It's odd for you to argue this point. True, no group of people can argue their group is completely immune to some sort of attack ...but you simply can't compare the plight of black women to white women in this country.

    As this video illustrates, we are talking statistically, not absolutes. Statistically, more than 50% of white women voted for Trump, which was up from prior elections. So the video was questioning the "trend" as to why more white women are support Trump. It's not saying white women are better off. In fact, the video is arguing that women are NOT better off despite that trend.

    But the point being, as a trend, women of color definitely do not feel safer these days. MUCH less safe, in fact. Sending the National Guard does not make people of color feel safe, just the opposite.
     
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    please add Nook to the school of the obtuse
     
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    You are the second person who missed the point. Black women feel LESS SAFE walking the streets of Chicago since the deployment of the National Guard and roving masked ICE agents. This is government sponsored profiling and people of color, historically, don't fare well when the government starts "cracking down on crime".

    Income discrepancy is a major factor. In the "make America great again" days of the '50s, the wage gap between the CEO and the factory worker was massively less than it is today. That is when average people (white people) could legitimately run a single income household.

    Calculating GDP makes one key assumption; income distribution is somewhat uniform or shared. If you and I are in a room together, the GDP of that room will be X. If Elon Must walks into that room, the GDP of that room no longer represents your standard of living. So when you have massive income disparities, calculating GDP is fundamentally a flawed measure. GDP is fine as one measure, but you have blind spots in the economy. Throughout history, many failed governments can attribute income disparity as a key factor into the downfall. Look at the French Revolution as one example.

    So Democrats in the past were the party of the middle class. Today, not so much. Democrats let the Republicans steal that away as the GOP focused on wedge issues focused largely on religion and "crime", both of which use fear as a motivator. Republicans then rebranded the Dems as West/East coast elitists, which was easy pickings given that Dems focused on identity politics rather than actually helping the middle class. All the democratic leaders were ivy league grads and old as dirt so the GOP ceased on those optics.
     
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    Has any movie in the past ~40 years aged worse than this?
     
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    Prosperity? Peace? LOL. Safety from what? The economy is in the tank (many states are already in a recession). Job hiring is now in the negative and Trump is threatening his own citizens who DARE to defy him.
     
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    He may have audited a class but I doubt he was ever a student.
     

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