In no scenario would he be giving up next years salary. He has a player option and he can exercise that option no matter what team he is on. He's going to collect that $50m, no question about it. What he would be giving up is the ability to get another contract of size above any exception starting in 2027-28. If he keeps his bird rights, the Rockets would have the ability to sign him to a number above their cap space then trade him elsewhere. Lose the bird rights, that scenario is no longer an option and a team can only use actual cap space to offer him a contract greater than the minimum or one of the exceptions (BAE, ROOM, MLE). I don't believe an NBA team would find an aging guard of very limited offensive ability coming off an injury worth more than those exceptions to begin with - but @Joe Joe makes a good point that those bird rights allow the team to sign him and use that exception on another player. He would be 33 to start that next contract .... I'd pretty much bet that this is his last contract paying above the minimum, if he gets another contract at all. Guards over 33 just don't have a lot of value in the league - unless they are special in some way - great shooter, great defender, great table setter - FVV is really none of the above.
This just goes into the calculus of why FVV was a mistake. Stone made a bet and he lost. You can look at the arguments for and against at his time of signing and see merit in why he was chosen over another option. Stone bet this summer he was right on this option and it proved to be wrong definitively. Now we have lost him for the year and I doubt he ever plays for the Rockets again after next summer. I fully see him as an opt in and trade candidate. Again what looked like a smart strategy with financial flexibility has backfired. Many GMs would have made this choice given the circumstances but now you take the L. Hopefully, we are able to dump him.
We just got rid of a chucker with poor defense. Why would we bring in another with even worse defense than the one we got rid of?
The problem was that they had no other way to fill the PG spot with anyone making more than the MLE (which they used on DFS), I think that was the mistake - they could have gotten Ty Jerome who signed for 3 years $27m with Memphis with that money - and he was a great fit, being one of the best shooters at the position while also being one of the most efficient pick and roll ball handlers too. FVV, Jerome & Shepard would have been a good guard group with Holiday as insurance. They were boxed in by the salary cap - signing FVV was really their only option. I don't think there was a player they could have gotten in a sign and trade using FVV that made a difference either. It just sucks that he got hurt. No, I don't think he plays for the team again either .... he'll likely get traded after opting into his contract next season, assuming he isn't traded before that.
Bad defense, certainly. I'm not sure I'd call Young a chucker, though, given he puts up decent efficiency and was last year's assists per game leader by over an assist and a half. I just can't call a guy who averaged almost 12 apg a "chucker."
If you watch him, he takes an awful lot of bad shots .... mostly really deep 3's. When you've been a Rocket fan for the last 60 years with the franchise at the forefront of analytics, those are enough to drive you crazy. Thanks Daryl ....
He has worse fg% AND 3p% than Jalen Green last season whilst taking more shots. That definitely qualifies as a chucker tbh lol.
Yeah tbh I think FVV signing had a lot of Ime into it, Ime just signed a 6 yr extension he has a lot of pull and FVV is his boy. At the time I thought no contender would even pay 12M for FVV but we offered a "fair" contract of 22M for 2 yrs.
So you would have moved Amen to the dunker spot in favor of one of the worst PG’s in the NBA (FVV) and two 2nd stream guards (if Sheppard is even that) and a third stream guard. Not a good idea at all. What is it about our offense that you dislike so much through 3 pre-season games?
Forgive me, but after reading your response I realized I confused you with the context of how I worded my post. I meant the original signing of FVV. We agree on the situation this summer. I think the original signing of FVV was the mistake.
Great reliable option because the other (forced) starter is clueless. Great relationship with coach and now player’s association president
