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The Official President Trump Thread - Second Term Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Scarface281, Jan 25, 2025.

  1. astros123

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    Not true. Cook has Republicans with 189 guaranteed seats + 22 seats being "lean" Republican which means +/- 6 point results. They would need to win all 22 "leans" + 7 flip districts which is very unlikely. Also cook hasn't factored in the CA gerrymander which will net Democrats 3-4 seats.

    Democrats have a 7 point lead in the midterms and will probably win the House by ease. Youre underestimating the impact of Healthcare cuts next year which will hurt GOP alot

    The most important thing that you didnt mention is having democratic control of the governor mansions in swing states. Democrats have the governors mansion in AZ/PA/WI/MI which is the most important thing.

    The troubling part is Trump has said he will send ICE to voting centers which is the most alarming thing. He wants to depress turnout
     
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    WTH? All the months Trump focused on going after schools and erasing words and history from government agencies, threatening other countries, renaming things, playing tariff TACO, trying to take over Greenland and Canada, faking imaginary wars going on in our country to send in troops, wining and dining with big donors and foreign investors while promoting his crypto and real estate, suing media networks and reporters, firing his enemies, suing schools, deflecting from the Epstein files, building a fancy White House ballroom, and decorating it with gold, attending all the major sporting events, going to his resorts and hosting fundraisers, and the hundreds of late night hours tweeting lies, bragging about himself, and spewing hate, and working a sweet deal for pedo Maxwell.

    Now just think if he had actually spent all that time coming up with that affordable healthcare plan he said he was supposedly working on during his campaigning. He has no plan!
     
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    "Federal agents that were assigned to pursue child trafficking has been disbanded" lol @deb4rockets

    Protecting pedophiles and his cultists think hes fighting the "elites" @Salvy lol braindead individuals
     
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  6. Amiga

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    For now, they're sticking with the system, as they should. We aren't in full fascism and the system is still functioning. The OR and CA lawsuit has already halted the admin from sending federalized National Guard from TX and CA to OR- ordered by a Trump-appointed judge, no less. IL and Chicago have also filed suit over the Chicago deployment.

    And states are winning on federal funding challenges too. CA has restored at least $168 billion in federal funding through lawsuits. Courts have blocked library funding cuts, ordered frozen EPA grants restored, and pushed back on education funding freezes. The legal system is creating real friction.

    If and when the system breaks down completely, states will have to take more extreme measures. We'd be in a full constitutional crisis at that point. States can form compacts to protect themselves and their citizens. You're already seeing this with the NW and NE forming their own pacts to provide independent medical and scientific guidance after HHS abandoned transparency and science-based advice.

    The admin is much weaker than it wants you to think- these legal losses prove it and polls show it. The real focus should be winning the midterms to halt this authoritarian push while the system still allows it.
     
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    The federal government is literally detaining people based on their looks and language they speak. They are detaining US citizens with no probable cause for days. They are breaking into people's houses with no warrant and zip tying kids with no probable cause.

    This was enabled by the radical Supreme Court. The system is broken. Get real
     
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    That also happened many decades ago (ask Japanese Americans). If you believe it's broken and beyond repair, then why even resist? Why even vote? Why even post here and risk them going after you tomorrow?
     
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    I'm not advocating for quitting. I'm simply stating that you have to be able to diagnosis the problem. You cant sit here and claim "we arent in full facism" just bcz they are following a few court orders. Full blown facism can occur within the system. The supreme court enabled segregation, slavery, and Japanese concentration camps.

    My issue is dont claim we arent in, "full facism" when we have agents busting in people's homes at 1am with no warrant zip tying kids and dragging them to unmarked trailers
     
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    There is no check, no court win, no independent media in fascism. You wouldn’t be free to post here. The executive is led by a bunch of fascists, but the system is still holding.
     
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    Come on man, Trump and the whole Epstein group were nothing but a bunch of nasty rich perverts and pedos who paid for girls being groomed and peddled around like candy. Rounding up migrants is his new form of entertainment now that he can't associate in that club anymore without prying eyes.
     
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    Feds breaking into your apartment at 1am with no warrant and zip tying your half naked 9 year old is a system thats working? Feds violating the 4th amendment with no warrants or probable cause is a system that's working?

    The system needs to be reset and it starts with the supreme court. This is not a system thats working for the ordinary American.
     
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    yes yes nothing is broken. yet. nothing to see here. move along.

    MAGA leaders are demanding the White House ignore court rulings against National Guard deployments, threatening a constitutional showdown over the president's authority to send troops into U.S. cities.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/10/06/national-guard-defy-court-ruling-judges-maga
     
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    Unitary Executive Theory has been adopted by a majority of the highest court in the country thus giving MORE power to the fascist.

    Congress has abdicated its duty as the most powerful branch...

    Just to reiterate the Supreme Court with their billionaire majority, err conservative, eh whatever has/is ruling consistently with this admin and the wealthy and against the working class.

    It won't hold forever...
     
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    Why would ICE being at voting centers depress turnout? Anyone eligible to vote (citizens) are not subject to deportation.
     
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    Why are the federalized national guard being deployed to relatively peaceful areas and only in democrat run cities? You always avoid questions you can't answer but I suppose that's a lawyer for you or a libertarian who can't answer to the people.

    Can the POTUS even do this legally in the first place? I have a feeling if it were Obama you'd have a different point of view.
     
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    Are you really pretending ICE is only going after illegals? Why do you play so dumb under Republicansm They literally just detained and zip tied little kids for hours half naked who were citizens. ICE just shot a citizen the other day. Theyre corrupt and out of control



    Its funny libertarians have been telling Americans for decades it's the evil left that wants big authoritarian government but were living under the most authoritarian big government and its not even close. Yall were brainwashed

    If it was obama hed literally be having a brain aneurysm
     
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    “65% approval rating.”…. He lives in a fantasy land, his approval rating is under 50%…
     
  19. StupidMoniker

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    From what I have seen, the national guard is being deployed to where there has been significant unrest. Where have you seen the national guard deployed to the more peaceful areas of the country? I would say you are mischaracterizing the situation. I don't believe the national guard has been necessary at any of these locations (though it would have been nice to have the local police step up), but they are going to among the most contentious places in America. They aren't hanging out on the beaches in Hawaii or some farmland in Montana.
    You would think my point of view about ICE depressing voter turnout would be different if Obama were president? I assure you that you are wrong.
    I am not pretending anything, that is their mission.
    During operations going after illegal aliens?
    A citizen attacking them while they were going after illegal aliens?
    I'm not sure you know what that means.
    I don't have any information about this man's particular case, so will not comment.
    I have commented repeatedly. My problems with this government just have limited overlap with your problems with this government. We both agree that the government should not be partially nationalizing private businesses, for example. We just disagree on many other issues. Government cutting funding to pretty much anything, for example.
    I opposed Obama on some things, and agreed with him on others. He was actually far more centrist than I expected. You are free to search my post history. It was actually Biden that fulfilled the hopes that people who elected Obama held. Biden governed far left of Obama, despite running as a centrist.
     
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    You honestly cant be this stupid can you? Do you just play dumb ?

    -national guard are NOT being deployed in high crime areas. In DC they are deployed at the Washington Monument and the train stations which have the lowest crime rate in DC. They arent going in the high crime areas anywhere they are deployed. They are literally picking up trash

    - "During operations going after illegal aliens?" Going after illegals does not allow you to trample the rights of other citizens. WTF arent you a libertarian? Youre exposing yourself as a partisan hack. You dont get to zip tie random kids with no probable cause because you're in some "mission." You don't suspend the constitution bcz youre arresting brown migrants m.

    -i know exactly what corruption means. The BORDER CZAR took a 50k bribe. Keep playing dumb. ICE regularly lies





    At times you give honest commentary while other times you expose your bias towards the right
     

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