Cam Whitmore traded to Wizards for 2 2nd round picks

This is what gets me: "only 2 2nd rounders!"

Do people think we took *less* than was offered/available?

 

No, I don't think that is the issue, the issue is why do that? What was the hurry? We have rosters spots available, we have a shortage of SGs on the team, and he is only 21 with 2 years of control left.

Why give him up for nothing? He might develop into an amazing player - what is the hurry to jettison him, it wasn't like he was causing any real problems.

He was frustrated with a lack of opportunities - Tari said the same thing - why not keep him at least until the trade deadline as a sweetener - there is zero reason to get rid of him for nothing.

DD

 

I didn't define his career. I was just refuting the claim that he wasn't given a chance to shine here. Cam fans keep blaming the coach for his failure. He had his chances. Even Cam knew he didn't do enough to be better.

The dude is still young. He can still have a solid career IF he plays hard and works hard on his weaknesses.

 

My gosh though, so many 20 year olds with a lot of talent have had frustration issues - who cares?

Or, are you saying that IME can't handle a strong willed 20 year old? I mean come on.......that would be hilarious and it would also mean he isn't going to be a great coach.

If Cam was like being a dick - like Nook hints that KPJ was doing - then sure, but he wasn't he wanted playing time, he had some GREAT games when given minutes.

Why in the hell would ANYONE give that away when he was only 20 years old and just starting to mature?

It just makes zero sense - we had him for 2 - 3 more years under our control, what was the hurry?

We don't even have a FULL ROSTER now.

DD

 

I am not talking about the trade. I'm talking about why he wasn't played more here. The fact is, he didn't play winning basketball and he got benched. We had a lot of wing players ahead of him. He had to put down his head and work hard.

Look at Jabari. He was 20 years old when Ime got here. He didn't shoot well. But he played hard on defense. He fought for rebounds. He lost his starting job after injury. But he didn't sulk. He did what was asked of him and he got a pretty good extension.

As for the trade, a lot of people believe that it was a favor done to Cam. He could thrive on another team IF he would become humble and hungry. We got a surplus of wing players. We didn't need another inefficient scorer who sucked at defense and playmaking. We do need more depth in the backcourt, but not a guy like Cam. We need players who can do at least two of these things: shoot, pass, defend. Cam is average at shooting and bad at passing and defending.

 

this has everything to do with KPJ dominating the ball and Jalen being in the corner for most of the start of his career. Also jalen was barred from being the primary ball handler for the start of his career. ALSO when rockets were bottom dwellers the whole offense was dominated by iso ball.

Jalen wasnt a ball hog he just didnt know how to pass when he got the ball in the pnr. he was a willing passer to Sengun. He lacked the skill to draw the defense and pass out to the right person.

Yall are being disingenuous. this is why there is no point arguing.

 

you getting angry about two completely different coaching regimes. good luck with that. Ime (for the most part) has been merit-based in his approach to coaching. Are you doing what you're asked? If not, sit down.

You're talking about, "KPJ was allowed to get away with everything!" like Ime was the one who coached him.

people get moved all the time because people dont want to deal with the headache. That's how KPJ got to Houston for peanuts.

Cam was never going to buy in as a backup and he was probably annoying people the way he was acting. he wanted to start more than win. wanted to start more than learn from one of the most prolific scorers in NBA history KD.

 

With those guys, stints overseas worked.

Don't know how but worked miracles.

KPJ went to Greece, Lamelo went from being an annoyance to being a professional at least.

 

Stone's job is not to do favors for other teams or players, it is to build the best team here, now Cam leaving may not have any effect being we have KD, but if Cam blows up, then he would have here too and we would have another star to be here when KD is done.

It just makes no sense, there is ZERO chance Morey would have done this for nothing.

DD

 

"If Cam blows up." That's the thing. with KD here, Cam's chances of blowing up is the same as last season. We still have plenty of wing guys ahead of him in the depth chart. He'd have to REALLY blow up to get a decent chance.

 

if he can’t blow up on the wizards, he will play overseas. Cams about to have the locker room hate him with his ball hogging.

 

Why would Ime and Stone do that.

 

I am not complaining about the trade, but it's plausible. Rockets could still have been high on him and didn't want to trade him in-conference. Or wanted to do right by him, and a late late first pick on, a team that player wouldn't likely get to time to play/develop, was worth Stone's desire to be seen as player friendly unlike the perception of his predecessor.

 

It’s because he was throwing a fit in the locker room. In a very subtle manner

 

I think it’s fair to say Stone is a better GM than Morey at this point. Look at what the two inherited (Sixers vs Rockets) and where they are now.

People need to look at IQ the same way they look at athleticism. Cam has all the athleticism in the world but with such low IQ it’s pretty much worthless. If the dude isn’t hitting his shots he is historically bad

 

Not a chance, Morey never had an opportunity to draft anyone, and Stone failed big time with Green.

DD

 

No way.

Morey had to do the near impossible...reload on the run and beat GS.
And, he did it.
The NBA had to step in with the zebras AND CP3 had to get hurt.

A rebuild has so much more margin of error, for one. Blank canvas...lots of assets...gigantic time frame.

 

I just got 2 Cam Whitmore cards from last year's 2024-2025 Panini Donruss set. I'm willing to sell them. Give me an offer.

I'll start the bidding at saaaaay. . . .

.005¢

Do I hear .005¢?!

 

But did Chris Paul really get hurt. . . Or was it more WWE scripting?

 

Well he is behind several forwards and guards on the depth chart just like he was here. He has the talent to be a rotation player but that's not really saying much because so does every other player in the league. You don't just end up on an NBA roster by luck.