UK recognises Palestinian statehood 108 years after Balfour Declaration

Interesting

Rocket River

 

I understand it as a symbolic gesture, but I question the wisdom of it from a tactical standpoint. They are giving Israel a pretext to (illegally) annex Gaza and the West Bank, which will happen with US backing. And Europe/Canada /Australia will be powerless to stop it.

 

UK has fallen

 

Islam is awful

 

(pssst... they were going to do it anyway)

 

Quran:

[
And We declared for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: You will commit corruption on earth twice, and you will rise to a great height.

When the first of the two promises came true, We sent against you servants of Ours, possessing great might, and they ransacked your homes. It was a promise fulfilled.

Then We gave you a turn against them, and We supplied you with wealth and children, and We made you more numerous.

7. If you work righteousness, you work righteousness for yourselves; and if you commit evil, you do so against yourselves. Then, when the second promise comes true, they will make your faces filled with sorrow, and will enter the Temple as they entered it the first time, and will utterly destroy all that falls into their power

Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you. And if you return, We will return. And We made Hell a prison for the unbelievers]


Genesis 32:28
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

 

They have the right to attack their neighbor country and their neighbor country has the right to attack back until they are defeated
@ROXRAN
@Commodore
@Salvy
Besides that
I can’t wait for their basketball team to be in the Olympics so we can destroy them

 

Not opposed, but wondering what this really does given the current siege on Gaza and the overall lack of organized Palestinian leadership.

Also, from a negotiation standpoint, it might have behooved the UK and the rest to make the release of all remaining hostages for Oct 7 as a condition for recognizing statehood.

 

hard to believe this kind of thing goes on in the UK today.

 

To do so would imply that Hamas' hostage-taking was a state-sponsored one and that Hamas therefore had some legitimacy as a government in Palestine, which they expressly wanted to reject. With UK's framing, Hamas' terrorist acts are merely criminal and not sovereign self-defense. Hostages probably don't care for logical niceties like that, but at this point I'm not sure anything will get hostages out alive anyway. Netanyahu cut bait a long time ago.

 

I am not sure if Palestine really wants a state. Correct me if I am wrong by in 2000 Israeli PM Barak offered statehood which included all of the Gaza Strip. This offer was not accepted. In 2008, Israel made a similar offer to Palestine which was not accepted. On the surface these two look like great offers for s state and eventually recognition by other countries. By not accepting, it really makes me question if long-term peach with Israel is a Palestinian goal or if they have other motives.