1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Charlie Kirk shot at university of Utah debate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Sep 10, 2025.

  1. Salvy

    Salvy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    25,034
    Likes Received:
    36,580
    Pretty funny how freedom of speech is all of sudden important..... Hehehehe......
     
    Space Ghost likes this.
  2. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    18,515
    Likes Received:
    8,806
    Self loathing people become the very people they hate.
     
    Salvy likes this.
  3. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    14,705
    Likes Received:
    16,660
    I think Charlie Kirk said a lot of dumb , antagonizing things . But , he has the freedom of speech to do so.

    Those who say indifferent snarky things about his murder also have the freedom to do so

    I guess this all comes down to legality vs repercussions and I'm not sure we want to play that game

    You can argue that a nasty post about his death should get someone fired , or cancelled (whatever).

    There are many right to work states that don't need any cause at all for firing and so If employers want to go for that , then there probably isnt a legal recourse

    Same thing with Kimmel getting cancelled etc. at the end of the day , you can always claim "business"

    But where is the legal line

    We did pass a civil rights act a while ago that created a line that said you can't refuse business to people based on the fact that they are black

    I'm not a lawyer . I don't know how that law works

    I don't know how your freedom of speech protections work within the overall legal framework

    But I do feel confident saying that we shouldn't want to play this game . The pendulum always swings and people that are cheering on consequences for average Twitter posts #1 are scum , #2 will eventually face the other side of the equation and it won't be pretty .

    You can try to argue "left" cancel culture already happened , but in my opinion not like this and not with as much support of the govt in power

    It's a bit scary

    We are trending in an authoritarian direction

    And it's not nice.

    Conservatives/trolls on this board may think I'm a bit chicken little , and I could be .

    But politics is team sports at this point with way more real life consequences . If the economy was good , we wouldn't have to pay attention and be so invested .

    Think about what happens when your team wins g1 and you talk **** . Then the other team wins G2 and they ramp up the **** talking . When you win G3 do attitudes cool down or does the energy level increase ? Eventually people are punching each other in the stands .

    Trump is ineffective at leading the nation morally. We are a throng of fans and tensions are getting high.

    No one is taking the high road and if you are Im sorry. There are too many gleefully taking the low

    But look , I don't know anyone who got fired yet . This is just stuff I read online or see headlines

    I do feel the pressure not to post or speak a certain way .

    All said , I think Kirk was pretty intellectually dishonest , but the man made a name for himself and made good money and I don't hate Stephen A smith .
     
    AleksandarN likes this.
  4. JW86

    JW86 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    8,800
    Likes Received:
    11,121
    Kirk was dumb and a piece of **** for the most part, but let’s not pretend he was turning on Netanyahu and his influence on the USA. Israel might have something to do with this murder, wouldn’t rule it out. Killing him or anyone over an opinion is of course never justified.
     
  5. SuraGotMadHops

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    6,731
    Likes Received:
    8,393
    I'm sending you source material you idiot. You don't even know what it is because you refused to look at it. There are clips of Kirk's own statements in that video, its not just a commentary video. My comments are on the point that your accusations of him as a racist, xenophobe, etc. has no basis whatsoever, and you don't even bother to look at the entirety of the context. You basically said "I don't need context" because you would rather continue hating the guy than risk being disproven. You are coming from a position of ignorance, and you are not to be taken seriously.
     
  6. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    24,505
    Likes Received:
    34,002
    That explains a lot about you actually.
     
  7. jo mama

    jo mama Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,757
    Likes Received:
    9,286
    you’re just being lazy and overly emotional. I read his whole exchange about black pilots. I saw the context. You said you were “smart” but you are totally unable to articulate what the proper context is or what I’m missing. You just keep telling me to watch a YouTube video. Stop being so lazy and disingenuous and think for yourself. Explain the context in you own words “smart” guy!
     
  8. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    33,229
    Likes Received:
    21,108
    Teaser of Indiana Jones mocking fascists in 1937 removed after complaint it somehow about Charlie Kirk

    Indiana Jones and the Great Circle is the latest game featuring the famed archeologist and adventurer, but publisher Bethsoft has deleted a teaser clip reminding viewers who he was up against in 1937: "You don't care much about those fascists, do you?" he says in it, to a cat. PC Games reports that conservatives complained the clip was a cryptic reference to Charlie Kirk, the right-wing influencer shot dead last week at a campus event in Utah, and demanded its removal.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. SuraGotMadHops

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    6,731
    Likes Received:
    8,393
    If you did that and still don't understand, then your brain synthesis and thought processing is lacking. Clearly, the text relates to his opposition to DEI, being opposed to DEI doesn't make you racist, it makes you an equal opportunist.
     

Share This Page