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Charlie Kirk shot at university of Utah debate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Sep 10, 2025.

  1. Salvy

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    Pretty funny how freedom of speech is all of sudden important..... Hehehehe......
     
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  2. Space Ghost

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    Self loathing people become the very people they hate.
     
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  3. snowconeman22

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    I think Charlie Kirk said a lot of dumb , antagonizing things . But , he has the freedom of speech to do so.

    Those who say indifferent snarky things about his murder also have the freedom to do so

    I guess this all comes down to legality vs repercussions and I'm not sure we want to play that game

    You can argue that a nasty post about his death should get someone fired , or cancelled (whatever).

    There are many right to work states that don't need any cause at all for firing and so If employers want to go for that , then there probably isnt a legal recourse

    Same thing with Kimmel getting cancelled etc. at the end of the day , you can always claim "business"

    But where is the legal line

    We did pass a civil rights act a while ago that created a line that said you can't refuse business to people based on the fact that they are black

    I'm not a lawyer . I don't know how that law works

    I don't know how your freedom of speech protections work within the overall legal framework

    But I do feel confident saying that we shouldn't want to play this game . The pendulum always swings and people that are cheering on consequences for average Twitter posts #1 are scum , #2 will eventually face the other side of the equation and it won't be pretty .

    You can try to argue "left" cancel culture already happened , but in my opinion not like this and not with as much support of the govt in power

    It's a bit scary

    We are trending in an authoritarian direction

    And it's not nice.

    Conservatives/trolls on this board may think I'm a bit chicken little , and I could be .

    But politics is team sports at this point with way more real life consequences . If the economy was good , we wouldn't have to pay attention and be so invested .

    Think about what happens when your team wins g1 and you talk **** . Then the other team wins G2 and they ramp up the **** talking . When you win G3 do attitudes cool down or does the energy level increase ? Eventually people are punching each other in the stands .

    Trump is ineffective at leading the nation morally. We are a throng of fans and tensions are getting high.

    No one is taking the high road and if you are Im sorry. There are too many gleefully taking the low

    But look , I don't know anyone who got fired yet . This is just stuff I read online or see headlines

    I do feel the pressure not to post or speak a certain way .

    All said , I think Kirk was pretty intellectually dishonest , but the man made a name for himself and made good money and I don't hate Stephen A smith .
     

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