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[Official] Texans @ Jaguars

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Sep 17, 2025 at 8:07 PM.

  1. Castor27

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    Sunday noon on CBS

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  2. percicles

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    Whoever looses this one pretty much can call the season finished.
     
  3. a time to chill

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    This is where the winning begins
     
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    Nah the jags can easily be 2-0 right now
     
  7. Phillyrocket

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    Start losing division games after going 0-2 and you might as well bring out the tanks.
     
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    If they lose this season is over which will put everyone on the hot seat. For next season.
     
  9. solid

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    I am not feeling it. Too much is wrong. No quick fixes. 0-3. I sincerely want to be wrong. Caley talked, and talked, and talked.....but doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Reminds me of BOB's disjointed play calling.
     
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    Stroud undefeated in divisional road games. His career vs Jags he’s 3-1 with 7 tds 0 int and rating of 110.3. The streak continues

    Texans 24
    Jags 20
     
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    TBH I have no clue, but if we lose this game, it will officially be a dumpster fire. Let's be honest, the Jags are not that good and we should beat them, if we get out of our own way we should get the win which is cool but were nowhere near the quality of the Ravens and Bills which was the objective going into the off season. It seems we have taken a step back so while a win would be cool, it doesn't change the fact that at this moment were not that good
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    So could the Texans
     
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    The Jags have been excellent at blitzing and getting pressures on the weak offensive lines they've faced. I wish we had an average offensive line. Oh well. But if the OC can do the minimum and not telegraph the ihop menu, it would help out the line a little more.

    14 qb hits for Jax in comparison to 12 for HTX
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...s-two-loss-teams-eliminated-playoffs-barnwell


    2. Houston Texans
    Chances of advancing to the postseason, via ESPN's FPI: 24.3%

    Texans fans will undoubtedly find it frustrating that their team is 0-2. In addition to the understandable preseason expectations after winning the AFC South and wild-card games in back-to-back seasons, the Texans were only a couple of plays away from starting 2-0. Running back Dare Ogunbowale fumbled in the red zone on a potential winning touchdown drive in Week 1, handing the ball to the Rams, who won 14-9. On Monday night, they just needed an unblocked Henry To'oTo'o to sack or even slow down Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield on a fourth-and-10. Mayfield escaped, scrambled for a first down, and drove the Bucs downfield for a touchdown and a one-point win.

    It's one thing to lose two close games to a pair of last season's playoff teams. It's another to play the way the Texans have in doing so. After devoting every resource this offseason to fixing their most obvious weaknesses, they look as if absolutely nothing has changed. Even with a new offensive coordinator and new players, the Texans still can't sort out pressure and protect quarterback C.J. Stroud.

    Nick Caserio rebuilt the line over the offseason, moving out Laremy Tunsil, Kenyon Green and Shaq Mason while importing an entire line's worth of potential new starters: tackles Cam Robinson, Trent Brown and Aireontae Ersery, guards Laken Tomlinson and Ed Ingram, and center Jake Andrews. With the Texans holding on to several of their own younger linemen, there was suddenly meaningful competition at every spot up front in camp.

    But the early returns on those moves aren't promising. Brown was sent to the practice squad. Andrews injured his ankle in the opener and sat out the Bucs game. Robinson, signed to a one-year deal for $12 million, was benched after the Week 1 loss and didn't play an offensive snap in Week 2. Tomlinson looked physically overwhelmed and was literally thrown to the ground by Greg Gaines before a sack Monday night. He wasn't the only one, as Ogunbowale was run over by Bucs safety Tykee Smith on a slot blitz for another sack. It's hard to play quarterback when your blockers are on the ground.

    Ersery has done his best, but it's hard to imagine that the best practices for any second-round rookie would be starting at right tackle in Week 1 before suddenly moving to left tackle in Week 2. He has given up one sack and three quick pressures in two games, which is reasonable enough. But Tytus Howard wasn't able to consistently handle Haason Reddick at right tackle, leaving the Texans with no reliable lineman around whom to build their pass protection.

    There also are still structural issues. As Geoff Schwartz noted after Week 1, the Rams were able to overload the Texans and sack Stroud on a play in which he didn't change the protection after he saw the Rams' front. That was a problem that also popped up for the Texans on a key fourth down against the Chiefs in last season's playoffs. Stroud either needs to be able to change that protection or have an answer to get the ball out quickly if he ends up being hot to one side, making the free rusher his responsibility.

    The Bucs used some of Todd Bowles' classic tricks to create structural pressure on Stroud. A late stem from the Buccaneers created an awkward block for Harrison Bryant, and Stroud was forced from the pocket by a slot pressure. Bowles created a sack with what's colloquially known as a "coffee house" stunt, where a defender feigns as if he's dropping back into coverage for a step or two, convincing linemen he isn't part of the protection call, before then jumping back into the rush. It created arguably the easiest sack of Lavonte David's career.

    One of the ways to keep out of those exotic pressures, and prevent teams from pinning their ears back to go after Stroud, is running the football. But after the Texans struggled to do that in 2024, they haven't been much better in 2025. Nick Chubb did hit a 25-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter to give the Texans a brief lead, but his previous 11 carries had gone for a total of 18 yards.

    Through two weeks, only 29% of Houston's designed runs on first and second down have been successful in terms of keeping the offense on schedule, which ranks 31st in the league, ahead of only the Cardinals. (If you're a Cardinals fan wondering why the offense hasn't lived up to expectations through two weeks, here's your answer.) As a result, the Texans are again forcing Stroud to live in second-and-long and third-and-long. On 16 of the Texans' 18 drives this season, Stroud has faced either a second or third down with nine or more yards to go. More than 48% of their second- and third-down snaps have come with 9-plus yards to the first, a figure topped only by the Bears.

    The other concern for the Texans has to be that the AFC South suddenly looks more menacing than last year, when Houston went 5-1 in its division. The Colts are 2-0. The Jags were a fourth-down stop away from joining them. I'm certainly not counting out the Texans -- they still have star defenders and Stroud. Maybe the offensive line jells in the weeks to come and the Texans find some sort of a running game.

    Last season, though, the Texans were a league-average team that won 10 games because they faced a below-average schedule and went 6-3 in one-score games. That formula wasn't going to be sustainable in 2025. And right now, while they're probably unlucky to start 0-2, the Texans sure look a lot like the frustrating team we saw last season.
     
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    He brings the juice…that’s all that matters.
     
  17. solid

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    Uh? Excitement doesn't win games; well-thought-out plays and crisp execution do.
     
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    Y'all are worrying too much about this.

    Texans are 31-15 against Jax since 2002.
    Texans are 23-6 against Jax since 2010.
    Texans are 18-4 against Jax since 2014.

    Texans have won in Jacksonville 7 times in a row.
    Texans are 10-1 in Jacksonville since 2014.
    Texans are 12-2 in Jacksonville since 2010.

    Texans own that team and city.

    It may not look pretty at all, and it will probably be the Jags self destructing.

    But the Texans are winning this game.
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    ...and defense too
     
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