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[AP] Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dies after being shot at Utah college event

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Sep 10, 2025 at 4:40 PM.

  1. DaDakota

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    So Kirk says Biden should be executed when he was President, and Biden, after Kirk was assassinated said there was no place for stuff like that.

    The GOP has jumped the shark, they are violent, support criminals, pedophiles and child killers and blame others for trying to silent free speech all while they try to cancel left and right.

    GOP - is the Hypoocrisy party, they used to be the conservative party, now they are just for cruelty, greed and silencing the majority.

    DD
     
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  2. Scarface281

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    He never said that about Biden. The left trying their hardest ti make Charlie some evil villain.
     
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    Personally, I'm bothered by the Utah governor Spencer Cox going on these news programs and discussing the suspected shooter's political ideology, calling it leftist or otherwise. or speaking anything about the shooter's motives for that matter.

    Yes, he's the governor of the state, but he's way out of his expertise.
    Just say the investigations are underway, he's glad the suspected killer is caught, and he hopes his community can heal, and then get back to governing.

    But that's a pipe dream, I guess.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Saying the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "mistake" is a good place to start on the road to "evil villainy"

    Since you don't know what it really is, you can read up on it here:

    https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/civil-rights-act
     
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    The quote from his podcast back in July 2023 was

    "should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America"

     
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    "Biden should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America".
    Charlie Kirk - July 2023
     
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  7. DaDakota

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    Here is what he said:

    "Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America"

    And Biden said:

    "There is no place in our country for this kind of violence. It must end now. Jill and I are praying for Charlie Kirk's family and loved ones."


    Now, how is it the left doing this again? Just stop lying.

    Charlie Kirk was a racist Christian Nationalist, he was no saint, he spoke some horrendous things, and he chose to use that to make money for himself, by being a negative influencer - No one should be killed for speaking their mind - but this guy was not a good guy by any stretch, he was like Rush Linbaugh, and will soon be forgotten.

    RECEIPTS and TRUTH matter.....get out of the cult while you can.

    DD
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Here is an article written about Kirk as well...

    BREAKING: Journalist and college professor Stacey Patton goes viral by penning a stunningly powerful statement about how she was on Charlie Kirk’s “digital hit list” and recounting the horror that he inflicted on her.

    We cannot allow this tragic assassination to whitewash Kirk’s legacy…

    “I am on Charlie Kirk’s hit list,” Patton wrote to her 215,000 followers on Facebook. “His so-called ‘Professor Watchlist,’ run under the umbrella of Turning Point USA, is nothing more than a digital hit list for academics who dare to speak truth to power. I landed there in 2024 after writing commentary that inflamed the MAGA faithful. And once my name went up, the harassment machine roared to life.”

    “For weeks my inbox and voicemail were deluged. Mostly white men spat venom through the phone: ‘b****,’ ‘c*nt,’ ‘n****r.’ They threatened all manner of violence,” she continued.

    “They overwhelmed the university’s PR lines and the president’s office with calls demanding that I be fired,” Patton wrote. “The flood was so relentless that the head of campus security reached out to offer me an escort, because they feared one of these keyboard soldiers might step out of his basement and come do me harm.”

    “And I am not unique,” she added.

    “Kirk’s Watchlist has terrorized legions of professors across this country. Women, Black faculty, queer scholars, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse,” Patton wrote.

    “Some received death threats. Some had their jobs threatened. Some left academia entirely. Kirk sent the loud message to us: speak the truth and we will unleash the mob!” she continued.
    “That is the culture of violence Charlie Kirk built. He normalized violence. He curated it, monetized it, and sicced it on anyone who dared to puncture his movement’s lies,” she wrote.

    “And now, in the wake of his shooting, there’s all this national outpouring of mourning, moments of silence, yellow prayer hands, and tributes painting him as a civil debater,” Patton continued. “But the truth is that Kirk and his foot soldiers spent years terrorizing educators, trying to silence us with harassment and fear!”

    “And now the same violence he unleashed on others has come full circle.”

    “But what i find especially jarring is the dissonance in public mourning for a smug white man whose life work was actively hostile to certain groups,” she continued. “Kirk spent years demonizing LGBTQ people, mocking gun survivors, spewing racism about Black folks, and pushing policies that literally shorten lives.”

    “It is so revolting to watch a bipartisan wave of grief sweep over this hateful racist as if he was a neutral community servant,” she concluded.

    This is pure unvarnished truth from Patton. Charlie Kirk did not deserve what happened to him, but nor did his victims deserve the hell that he unleashed on them. If Americans are going to build a more peaceful future for ourselves we must condemn political violence while also condemning the hateful, bigoted rhetoric that made Kirk a multimillionaire.



    TRUTH !!! Kirk spread lies and hate to enrich himself and threatened others......

    I guess we could all have thoughts and prayers that the GOP enacts gun laws making stuff like this harder to happen....

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  9. deb4rockets

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    This is a typical example of someone Trump doesn't care about. He doesn't give a damn how threatened the "left" is, because in his sick mind they deserve it. In fact, he loves the right wing celebrities who fuel his mentality. Right wing podcasters, news hosts, and "non profit" right wing political activists and speakers are put up on a pedestal and embraced by him. If they lie, or incite any type of toxic hatred towards groups of people is fine, as long as they love and support him.

    I mean, we have two perfect examples leading the FBI right now, with Kash and the ex Rumble podcasters Bongino. You think they aren't full board on vengeance against anyone in this nation who opposed Trump's viewpoints? Do you think they run the FBI without political bias? Do you believe they will use the same effort to hunt down and arrest all perpetrators of threats or violence towards others, regardless of who the victims are? Think again.

    Throughout his media career, Bongino has portrayed himself as a fierce partisan warrior.

    "My entire life right now is about owning the libs," Bongino said in 2018. "That's it."

    Going beyond political disagreement with Democrats and the political left, Bongino has said, "the left is evil" and actively "destroying the country."

    “Democrats are involved in a cold civil war with the United States of America right now. They want this country destroyed.”
    The Dan Bongino Show, Sept. 15, 2021

    “The left is a clear and present danger to your public safety and your economic security.”
    The Dan Bongino Show, July 22, 2022

    “The left is evil. I need you to understand that there's a difference here. It's not just that they're wrong on politics. They are evil.”
    The Dan Bongino Show, Sept. 21, 2023

    https://www.npr.org/2025/03/03/nx-s1-5308020/dan-bongino-trump-fbi-director-conspiracies-podcast

    Kash Patel’s Past Statements Show Desire to Use FBI to “Come After” Enemies

    As Trump was facing an investigation into his unauthorized transfer of classified White House documents to his Mar-a-Lago estate, for example,

    Patel falsely asserted that Trump’s action was covered under the Presidential Records Act.

    “When you’re president and you leave, you can take whatever you want. And when you take it, whether it’s classified or not, it’s yours,” Patel said in the summer of 2023.

    He has repeatedly expressed disdain for journalists who are critical of Trump, once stating that he wanted to “come after people in the media” who reported on Trump in a negative light.

    Patel has also peddled merchandise that is decidedly pro-Trump. He has sold numerous items on his website ridiculing Trump’s opponents, and wrote a series of children’s books featuring a character with Trump’s likeness, entitled “The Plot Against the King.”

    More recently, Patel shared on his social media an AI-generated video of himself attacking individuals he and the Trump administration have opposed, including former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, former Assistant Secretary for Health Rachel Levine, former President Joe Biden, and others.

    Patel has even gone so far as to create a list of people he believes should be targeted by the administration, which many have described as an “enemies list.” The individuals, numbering around 60 in total, are named in Patel’s 2022 book, “Government Gangsters,” and include Democratic Party officials, progressive advocates, and even former Trump administration officials who have since become critical of the president.

    Patel hasn’t hidden his desire to use the power of the government to punish Trump’s perceived enemies. “We will go out and find the conspirators” against Trump, he said in a 2023 podcast interview. “Whether it’s criminally or civilly, we’ll figure that out.

    https://truthout.org/articles/kash-...show-desire-to-use-fbi-to-come-after-enemies/
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    Why Officials Should Reserve Judgment in Criminal Cases | Cato Institute

    Since Trump came into office, this has gotten far more common as far as I can tell. I don't really blame Trump for this one though, but social media. Social media provides politicians so much incentive for jumping the gun. Trump helped it go more mainstream, but it was coming regardless, imo.
     
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  11. JuanValdez

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    The tinman thread has a lot more traffic than this one, and I imagine we have 2 threads because people with tinman on ignore don't see there is another conversation going. But, I asked AI about the tone of the two threads, and this is what it told me:

    This thread:
    • Generally somber and restrained.
    • Posters express shock, sadness, and condemnation of political violence.
    • The thread opens with a factual AP-style report and includes bipartisan reactions (e.g., Trump and others denouncing the act).
    • Minimal overt hostility.
    • One post controversially states “Yes it is, sometimes [political violence] is the only answer,” referencing historical revolution—but it’s framed as a philosophical reflection rather than incitement.
    • Most replies push back against that sentiment or reaffirm peaceful norms.
    • Users largely avoid partisan blame.
    • The thread maintains a reflective tone, even when discussing controversial aspects of Kirk’s rhetoric or the shooter’s motives.

    Tinman's thread:
    • Far more combative and emotionally charged.
    • Opens with a provocative post linking pro-Palestinian sentiment to violence.
    • Rapid escalation into partisan accusations and personal insults.
    • High toxicity. Several posts accuse “liberals” of being emotionally unstable or violent.
    • Others counter with claims that “most mass shooters are Republican,” sparking rebuttals and name-calling.
    • One user calls another “legitimately so stupid,” and accuses them of morally endorsing murder.
    • The thread devolves into tribal blame and ideological attacks.
    • Little moderation or pushback against inflammatory language.
    • The shooter’s identity becomes a proxy for broader culture war grievances.
     
  12. Sajan

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    really don't have to try so hard when it's a verbatim quote...

     
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    Pretty neat. Which AI did you utilize? I have only posted in the other one with nothing but somberness and restraint. I guess I should be in this one more with Dakota and Deb.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    Well he was pretty much an American Nazi....who was trying to take the christ out of christianity.

    What is with Protestant Christians and nationalism...... KKK and actual Nazis..... ?

    Do you think empathy is a sin?
     
  15. Sajan

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    I want to know which psychopaths doesn't have tinman on ignore.
     
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    Basically Christian Taliban thread vs non-Christian Taliban thread.
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    Just Copilot. I maybe should have added a disclaimer that AI might by hallucinating about some or all of it.
     
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    As people keep blaming this on the "violent rhetoric of the left", I'd like to remind them of this..



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    I wondered why this thread wasn't very active.
     
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