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The Threat to Democracy from Trump Loyalists

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Sep 3, 2022.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    While stripping kameltoe of hers

    he only cares about self serving interests

    divisive and terrible human
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    He is right a deranged person might take the fascism accusation to its logical conclusion and commit a crime. But you don't refrain from calling a fascist a fascist because someone else might do something you don't approve of as a result. Trump is plainly an authoritarian who is undermining institutions of the republic to bend them to his will in an unconstitutional fashion. And, he has fascist allies in Congress, the courts, state governments, media and social media and elsewhere who are trying to help him do it. They are fascists. Oppose them. But please don't murder them.

    Perfectly reasonable to add more security because the threat of physical violence is real. But let's move past this 'take the temperature' down talking point. Neither side is willing to move first or have any team discipline to reduce their own dangerous rhetoric, so let's stop pretending.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    Look, don't let the whiny snowflakes use guilt because they don't like what they are doing and what it is called.

    Facism is facism - no matter whether all those pedophile supporters like it or not.

    DD
     
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    I'll just disagree with the assessment of fascism and leave it at that. I agree that Trump engages in authoritarian rhetoric (mostly throwing red meat to his base), but for the most part he works clearly within a democratic framework and abides by legal decisions that go against him. I think he likes to test the limits of his own/presidential power, and is willing to "win some" and "lose some" as a result of those efforts.

    I think the fascism label is thrown about far too much and does nothing to help political debate.
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    ...says the guys who scream "COMMUNISM!" every time two Democrats split the tab at a restraunt.
     
    #65 Ottomaton, Sep 15, 2025 at 10:25 AM
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    That sure is a charitable view of Trump if I’ve ever heard one.

    Go look at how often he’s actually told no by Congress and the stacked Supreme Court and that’ll give you a good sense of why you chose to make that highly charitable assumption.

    When he was told no by the states, the courts, and Mike Pence in January of 2021, did Trump day “oh well… win some lose some”???

    I’ll give you this much… his illegal actions that get put on hold by lower courts until the Supreme Court rules do show SOME limitations but that’s only because he knows his sycophants on the court will ultimately at least partially rule in his favor.

    His ambitions are clear though and I’m not going to be a frog in boiling water here… and I’m sure as hell not going to be gaslit by you by your constant propaganda that sand washes Trump and demonizes anyone from the pro democracy coalition of Americans.
     
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  7. JuanValdez

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    I guess we will just disagree. 'Fascism' unfortunately is a term that is very confused in public discourse because defining it has become a political football. I know in my mind very clearly what I mean by it and I don't use it flippantly at all.
     

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