[AP] Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dies after being shot at Utah college event

All the bad guys look like Bryan Coalburger these days.

 

If this is right, then it sounds like a hit...

That video of the HAND SIGNALS by the military guys behind him......looks very telling........

DD

 

Ok, this is looking more and more like a setup.

I wish we had an uncompromised FBI - to follow up, but just like Trump's (ehem) assassination attempt - no one followed up at all.......

Seems to be a trend here.....distract from Epstein - Kirk was calling for the files - this might be Irwin Rommel all over again........killed and pretend he died for the cause.....

DD

 

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

Umm. Normal people don't talk like that in my book. We can't get his input now on whether it is still worth it.

 

If you support the 2nd amendment and you are sufficiently reality-based to recognize that the cost of that right will be excess gun deaths then the position he articulated is just inescapable logic. Yes, those deaths are unfortunate, but retaining the unfettered right to bear arms is worth it. I actually appreciate his willingness to just say it out loud rather than pretend that there isn’t a cost in human life when it comes to the 2nd amendment.

 

Agreed, but what rubs me the wrong way about his comments is his straw-manning the ideal of a "gun violence free society". That isn't an argument anyone is making, and it's emblematic of his constant bad faith behavior.

 

if I understand the quote correctly, the logic is the same as accepting a known probability of automobile-related mortalities as a price society is willing to pay for the freedom of having automobiles for transportation.

And just because we accept that price for the freedom we get in exchange, doesn't mean we are "pro-drunk driving," just as being pro-firearm does not mean we are "pro-school shooting" or "pro-gun violence."

 

Agreed.

 

Yea...the irony is he was talking about himself as one of those deaths. He probably felt pretty immune to such an outcome when he said it originally.

 

What’s the relevance of that timestamp?

 

Undoubtedly.

Gun violence to a conservative political celebrity is something "the poors" have to deal with in urban liberal hellholes.

 

So many weird things here.

1. Hand signals behind Kirk by security guys literally seconds before he was shot.
2. Guy confesses to shooting - right away (seems like a distraction)
3. Shooter gets away with gun in backpack
4. Gun found in woods assembled and with ammo and some manifesto writing on it (why would shooter reassemble when gun was in backpack)?
5. Trump says he is dead before anyone else, Netanyahu and Trump tweet at same time about it.
6. Revealed that Patel replaced head of FBI in Salt Lake City one month ago - for no known reason.

I mean, if this is all conspiracy stuff, it would make one helluva novel.....

I just wish we had an uncompromised LEO on the scene to chase down the truth - because this is looking more and more like a false flag for Trump to distract from the Epstein files and get a big MAGA influencer that was calling for that release out of the way, and if Trump is willing to take out a boat of 11 souls in Venezuela - for No known reason - he certainly might do this.

I mean there is evidence that DJT staged his ear bullet about one year ago, maybe this is a continuation as he got a massive popularity spike after that incident - which no investigation ever happened on.....weirdly.....

Tinfoil hat firmly on....my head here.....lol.

DD

 

It maybe logically but doesn’t mean it’s not a position of an @sshole.

 

I guess it’s because Trump knew he was dead before anyone else?

I don’t buy the conspiracy that it was an inside job unless he was about to turn on maga (which would be surprising to say the least). As one of if not their best propagandists, he was worth far more to them alive and producing propaganda than with the advantages they’ll get to seek an authoritarian crackdown from his death.

I’m not saying I know it’s not someone from the far right killing him for X,y, and z reasons, but I do not see the benefit from his assassination being ordered from the top.

 

Trump announcing Kirks death before everyone else was very weird. Not conspiracy weird. Just weird.

 

The timing of pulling some other folx's SS details seems . . .. Suspicious

Rocket River

 

I mean I am no LEO, by any means, I just wish we had a REAL trustworthy law enforcement officer on this - because this looks and feels very fishy.



Holy cow, what?

DD

 

Image of person of interest released by FBI:



Let’s see:

1. young white male
2. Flag and nationalistic slogans prominently featured on clothing
3. Very proficient with a rifle

If I’m “playing the statistics” here, does this appear to be a radical leftist?

Maybe the clothing was intentionally worn to throw off investigators or help blend in. Or maybe this is just some random dude.