Rockets Legends™ Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony nominated to the Hall of Fame

Dwight for his NBA play, Melo for college. And Dwight was goofing around too much to my liking with us, but give us a decent PG and we beat the Warriors in 2015.

 

Dwight is a Hall of Famer. Should he be a first ballot Hall of Famer? Debatable. Should he be on the Top Seventy Five Team? No.

 

I'm not sure it's even that debatable. Dikembe was a first ballot HOF similar accolades. Yao was with a fraction of them. Vince Carter was, is he truly a better player on paper than Dwight was? Tmac? I don't think he looks out of place amongst the list at all tbh. And though his peak was short he was arguably a more dominant/better player than a lot of people on here who just had better teams.

 

I don’t think any of the guys you mentioned should be first ballot hall of Famers… which is kind of my point, the basketball hall of fame is weak.

 

I think they should make a Basketball Hall of Fame and separate it from the NBA Hall of Fame......

As College players can even get into a Basketball kind of Hall of Fame but would not be considered for the NBA Hall of Fame.

And I get that Dwight Howard and Melo are both household names and a Hall of Fame is not just the Top 50 of all Players....

Otherwise there would be no fun if only 1 generational player in 10 years would be allowed in.

Maybe have a GOAT tier in the HOF.....like only Jordan, LBJ, Kareem can be part of..... and Hakeem can be on the outside looking in.

 

They put mitch richmond in.....they're gonna put freakin klay thompson in, guys that can't hold a candle to dwight. I bet you they'll even put iguodola in. Of course those guys will be a disgrace to the HOF but dwight is absolutely not.

 

He's actually super underrated. Before injury he was an absolute monster.

 

I don’t think Dwight is a disgrace to the HOF. I don’t think he is a First Ballot guy, but it’s debatable. My issue is more with the Basketball Hall of Fame not being selective enough overall.

 

I agree with that completely, the 3 guys i listed are/will be a total disgrace and an embarrassment. Dwight before his back injury did finish top 5 in mvp voting like 4 years in a row, he was a legit superstar. His peak is higher than someone like Tatum, who will easily make it.

 

I don’t think he is under rated. I think he is about where he should be. He was an exceptional player for awhile. Was in discussions for MVP for a few years. Second half of his career was solid but not as good. I think the Kobe/Shaq comments were unfair.

 

I would counter that players with a past like his sexual attacks on people.....that there should be a longer waiting period to get into the HOF.

Keep the HOF as clean as possible for a period of time.

I would argue same with Kobe but there are Forces that work for him......so yeah.

As you mentioned, I don't use the word 'weak', I just think they are letting more dudes in, and at least be more selective with players for once.

Esp. letting players with shorter and shorter primes join the Club, I am not a fan of this direction.

Dude could not even learn a post game, he was all running shots, dunks.

 

Look up Mutombo and Dwight...who had the better career?

 

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After his Rockets contract expires.

 

Harden was more than a decent PG. They just didn't get along.

 

Anybody in their right mind knows Dwight is an easy HOF inductee. Not only did he have better years pre-Houston, but the bball HOF has low standards relative to crazed forum fanboys.

... But it's still very fair for us to look at his Houston stint with regret and a bit of disdain. I really, REALLY never wanted him here in the first place, and I don't believe he gave us anything worthwhile, especially considering the hype and how close he was to his prime.

 

Is Blake Griffin a HOF player?

 

Oh I agree 100% He was one of the biggest letdowns of the Harden years for me, but I do give him respect for his time before us, dude was a genuine best in his prime.

 

I'm sure he'll get in, but he's somebody I'd personally consider to have fallen just short. No rings, no big individual awards, he does have a few all-NBA selections and a college player of the year so I guess maybe as a fringe player with those NBA second and third teams but yeah I wouldn't actually say so. He wasn't good enough for long enough and his peak didn't go high enough for me personally.

 

Technically Harden wasn't playing PG yet in 2015. We always had a "pure" PG on the floor next to Harden, and they were always our weakest link in the playoffs, after losing Bev's defense. That position was just too stacked in the west to overcome that weakness, especially against Curry and the Whoreiors. That plus the Donatas injury hurt... I still wonder how good Donuts could have been that year if he coulda stayed on the floor. But maybe him getting injured into irrelevance was inevitable.

Still, it hurt that we were missing 40% of our starting lineup in those playoffs, and it's crazy impressive that Harden still carried us to the WCF and a somewhat competitive showing against GS. That was the first of his 2-3 MVP robberies.

But I digress. Having said all that, beating GS, especially with the refs in their pocket, would have been a tall task that year no matter what.

2018 or maybe even 2019 on the other hand...