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2025 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Mar 28, 2025.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    If they are okay with that role, then we should keep them as long as we can. It's not like they bring a lot of value in a trade. We got Dubon for peanuts with 3 years of control. We didn't give up much or Urias either.
     
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    Obfuscation!
     
  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    My worry with Jake is that he's normally not a good hitter, so there is no guarantee that he hits as well after he comes back. I would guess that he has a higher probability of going back to his normal which is a below average hitter.
     
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  4. Wulaw Horn

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    Sure. But melton is horrific and Chas is washed up shy of 30. At least Jake plays excellent defense.
     
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    This is valid but a gamble on him being the same guy as before the injury is better than 2025 Chas or Melton or Dubon vs RHP.

    My guess is that he has permanently traded any attempts at power for for a more contact oriented CF- RCF plan and continues to be a slightly above average overall hitter (110ish) with much more on base than power. A good #9 or #8 hitter who is terrible at #1-7.

    Couple that with his defense and he is a great 7th or 8th best position player or a team.
     
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    I really hope that Jake doesn't play too cautiously with his calf and loses his value as a great defensive player. I legitimately think rookie/1st half 2025 Jake is who he really is though at the plate.
     
  7. Wulaw Horn

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    That's what it looked like to me when I did my numbers dive. And that's also why a 350 babip seems pretty sustainable. It will be empty calories with no pop- but if you keep almost all your balls on the ground or on a line drive to the oppo side yeah- you are going to have a high babip and a low slug. Not be all that valuable offesnively, but as a 9 hitter playing great defense that's a real win.
     
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    I think it’s possible Framber has cost himself 100 million dollars in the last 2 months
     
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    Not because of his pitching performance, he still has some of the best numbers in the game

    But if speculation about him tonight is true, he cost himself at least that much
     
  11. lnchan

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    Hot take: this game is the real turning point of the season in a good way. Everyone will have an epiphany that they can't take thngs for granted and need each other to succeed.
     
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    Thoughts wander to Framber and all the talk of trade deadline that trading him would make us uncompetitive and destroy clubhouse. Pretty clear in hindsight that should have traded him but nobody saw this coming that he totally would stop playing for the team.

    Correa made sure to C.Rome couple of days ago that nothing to fix aproach, decision making, sit.hitting and basic stuff. Seeing how we play makes me think has Joe lost the clubhouse? Guys doing dumb s**t with no accountability, nothing done to base stealing madness and 10 other things. If I would be guy trying to win for the team and make productive plays all around, this might kill my buzz to try my best too.

    Big props to Salazar for being a such pro for them both. Makes me think about Chris Rock and the Oscars. "Mama told me not to fight front of white folk/audience". Even without intention, imagine if at some point Salazar would have accidentally hit Framber throwing back to mound. All hell would have broke loose because Framber is ME ME ME ME ME ME..............ME...........ME.......team guy.
     
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    Framber is so weak minded. He got himself in trouble when he tried calling his own pitches. He should realize that he’s at his best when he lets the catcher make the decisions and he just executes.

    I guess they kept maldy around to be his baby sitter.
     
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    Hinch or Baker would have pulled Framber immediately after Framber through at Salazar. I can’t wait to get this POS off the Astros. Sure the Astros have a BS reputation to causal baseball fans but the team is made up of great guys.

    Framber is a loser/mental midget. He’s costs the Astros two World Series as far as I’m concerned and there’s a reason why the Astros haven’t resigned him despite being a top 5 winning pitcher in baseball the last several years.
     
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    After that **** last night, Framber will be good riddance this offseason. Anyone who offers him $100M+ is a fool.

    I do hold Espada somewhat accountable for not managing Framber better to prevent mental meltdowns like that. Especially since there had already obviously been problems between Framber and Diaz.
     
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    What were the problems with framber and Diaz?
     
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    Is Framber affordable now? We can fix him (or keep him serviceable).
     
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    https://www.si.com/mlb/astros/news/...ger-letting-valdez-call-his-own-pitches-brad9

    During camp this year, Framber Valdez planned on taking a different approach when on the mound for the Houston Astros in 2024.

    After never using the now popular PitchCom device before in his career, he wanted to move into calling some of his own pitches.

    The early result was horrendous.

    Valdez gave up three earned runs on five hits, one of them being a home run, over 1 1/3 innings pitched.

    Not quite what the Astros were hoping for after their ace had a tough back half of the year that carried over into the postseason.

    It seems like manager Joe Espada shut things down early after getting a glimpse of what Valdez calling his own pitches might look like.

    So, in his second start, the left-hander gave pitch-calling duties back to catcher Yainer Diaz, which resulted in a much better outing.
     
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