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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Aluminum is a TINY FRACTION of total imports. Did you post that thinking it was a proxy for all imports and the effectiveness of the overall policy? If so, then WOW. And to boot, your graph doesn't speak to who is paying the tariff. Just a horrible response from you. The overall economic data speaks -- not a tiny slice of incomplete data on a single commodity.


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  2. astros123

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    Dude I can post a million different items that have skyrocketed due to the tariffs. Quit gas lighting and lying to people about tariffs. Nobody buys your bullshit





    I can give you 100 items that have skyrocketed cuz of the tariffs. Quit your bs about foreigners paying it. Quit lying
     
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    You haven't developed the ability to discern propaganda from economic data. Yes, there are liberal journalists and propagandists on X that can post their inflation wishcasting on a daily basis. Can you filter that out and think critically? Can you filter out the noise and form views based on actual data, not the forecasts of interested parties?

    Below is the economic data showing modest inflation (healthy, low levels)
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/12/cpi-inflation-report-july-2025.html

    In a competitive market place, with foreign producers competing against domestic producers, the foreign producer will shoulder a good portion, if not all, of the tariff in order to maintain their level of business (and market share) -- especially in the short term. This is exactly what's happening -- and the American consumer remains healthy and confident. And as an aside, inflation is almost always a function of monetary policy and budget deficits (for America only, since the USD is the global reserve currency), not tariffs or economic growth. Under Biden, the money supplied increased by around 60%... as Biden's reckless discretionary spending spree led to record breaking deficits... which then gave us the inflation that we now feel.


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  4. astros123

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    Again a third of CPI is energy prices which arent impacted by tariffs (us rig point is down double digits as Trump sold out domestic energy in favor of OPEC). Another huge chunk of CPI is food away from home which arent impacted by tariffs. CPI is not a indicator of how tariffs have impacted the consumer.

    American consumers are paying the brunt of tariffs. This is a fact regardless if you like it or not. Vegetable/meat prices are skyrocketing bcz of tariffs. Housing materials are skyrocketing cuz of tariffs.

    I can give you a list of 100 items that have gone up cuz of his tariffs. Why do you wanna do this when you know you'll end up looking dumb?
     
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    The CPI is not an indicator of how tariffs have impacted the consumer? Are you aware that the "C" in CPI standard for Consumer? And are you aware that the "P" in CPI stands for Price? Wow.

    You are struggling on this -- and you still cannot grasp that overall economic data is used to determine inflation, not what Sally saw at the grocery store in Albany, NY on Friday. Anecdotes simply are not representative samples... the CPI does use good sampling, which makes it the far superior metric in this discussion... and the CPI is showing low inflation. Furthermore, tariffs are working to reduce the budget deficit... which also drives down inflation in the long term. You, and the liberal economists, have been wrong, wrong, and wrong on this issue from the jump. Just admit it, amigo! The facts speak.


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    Real americans are struggling with inflation cuz of his dumbass tariffs have made life harder. His economic approval ratings are the worst of any POTUS in modern history



    Food prices are out of control and theyre only going higher. Trumps tariffs are destroying the middle class. Period
     
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    Wow, you continue to post anecdotes on tiny slices of the economy while disregarding the macroeconomic data. Foolish and stubborn of you -- two severe character flaws.

    Trump is destroying the middle class? How? By lower their taxes, lifting the values of the 401k accounts, bringing jobs back to America, raising real wages, protecting them with border security and federal resources like the National Guard, and keeping inflation low? The middle class has never had a better President than Trump -- he's growing the economy and the middle class is participating like never before. Policies specifically tailored for their benefit have been implemented. Try to keep pace.


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    astros123 posts facts.

    You post Conquistador word salad.

    You are getting your ass beat.
     
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  9. adoo

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    traitor geroge needs to stop lying
    just the opposite. in the first 7 mo of Trump. 2.0, job creation is so small, that Trump had to kill the messenger, the Dire of Labor & Statistics.
     
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    LOL, he copies and pastes marginally relevant Twitter blurbs and thinks he's made an argument. He can't match wits with me at all -- especially on a topic like this. So he tries his best to use other people's arguments -- even when they don't line up well with what's being debated. He's a poor debater. Gives incomplete, poorly-constructed answers and flies off the handle emotionally. Very low scores for critical thinking... which does makes sense given his emotional profile. I would not hire him.


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    More word salad. Worse yet, very unoriginal.

    The recycling of phrases (“poor debater”, “low critical thinking”, “would not hire”) reflects a small vocabulary and probably low SAT score. Perhaps you were admitted as a student athlete at Rice? This also shows lack of creativity and sadly low standards. This feedback is for your own good. Please take a moment to review your posts and reflect on this. Jorge, you are declining badly.

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    MAGATS @El_Conquistador

    Dude you're literally arguing in this thread that foreign producers are paying the tariffs when all data shows otherwise. You can call me whatever you want but you're the one spewing the most braindead talking points that you know is false
     
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    "transitioning" to what?
     
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    Anyone who doesn't think the consumer is paying the tariffs is either not very smart or just lying.........I put my money on the latter for folks on here. Have ya been to HEB or Lowe`s lately................ya`ll gonna love when Xmas gets here
     
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    I believe El Conquistador is a bot. Barely joking.
     
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    Plain English, please.

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    good news and bad news for Trump 2.0

    • the good news is that there is no need to TACO/back-pedal on tariffs
    • the bad news is that

    A federal court just ruled Trump’s tariffs are illegal,
    strengthening the point that only Congress has the power to impose tariffs

    The three-judge panel ruled Trump had exceeded his authority in imposing the tariffs
    on imported goods under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).
    The court said Trump could only use the emergency powers of the IEEPA “to deal with
    an unusual and extraordinary threat with respect to which a national emergency has
    been declared.”​

    Treasury Scot Bessent had said that "it'd be embarassing if the court rules that tariffs are illegal"​
     
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    Don't get too excited, watch the Supreme Court overrule them...
     
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    The same supreme court that blocked bidens student debt forgiveness but somehow will allow the POTUS to unilaterally tax Americans. They are partisan hacks

    If you're trying to help people out you get stopped
    If you're trying to tax folks they'll greenlight it
     
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