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  1. El_Conquistador

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    I'm sorry, but that's absurd. US citizens are 100% safe from deportation.


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    You aren't so oblivious to know that they are talking about revoking citizenship to get around that.
     
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    It's not Reconstruction, it's Deconstruction?

    What would you call it?
     
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    They are deporting the U.S. citizen children of illegal parents, and want to re-write Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to do away with birthright citizenship.
     
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    They didn't show the part of the feed where Trump was urinating in his cabinet member's mouths.
     
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    I agree that any Nazi or Hitler comparison is hyperbolic. But Orban references are not. Trump is actually moving faster to consolidate power in his second term than Orban ever did.
     
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    Please explain or provide examples... is this the parents' choice to keep the family together? If the children are young, then this situation is easily avoidable by self-deporting... There should NOT be a benefit from cutting in line and NOT entering this country through a port of entry. National security is compromised if any hostile agent could walk across our border and stay -- and unfortunately this happened by the tens of thousands under Biden's policy. All permitted by Democrats not out of compassion, but to increase the # of Democrats in the House of Representatives... shameful behavior by morally bankrupt liberals.
     
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    when you've lost Morning Joe . . .

    ‘Morning Joe’ host Joe Scarborough urges defiant Chicago Dems to allow Trump to send National Guard after bloody Labor Day weekend

    https://nypost.com/2025/09/02/us-ne...ational-guard-after-bloody-labor-day-weekend/

    excerpt:

    “I actually think that JB Pritzker should do something radical. I think he should pick up the phone, call the president and say, ‘You know and I know you don’t have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here. You can do that in DC. You can’t do that in Chicago. But let’s partner up,'” Scarborough said Tuesday on his “Morning Joe” show.
    more at the link
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-...b?st=XyX6Tb&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Trump, Troops and the Mayhem in Chicago
    He’s making D.C. safer, but his power elsewhere and use of National Guard is limited under the law.
    By The Editorial Board
    Sept. 2, 2025 6:03 pm ET

    President Trump suggests Chicago is next for his political clash with Democrats on crime, but Mayor Brandon Johnson and Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker promise to resist, and it could be an ugly showdown. The Chicago crime problem is real: 58 people were shot over Labor Day weekend. But the limits on federal power are real, too: On Tuesday a judge ruled Mr. Trump’s use of the National Guard in Los Angeles broke the law.

    “Congress spoke clearly in 1878 when it passed the Posse Comitatus Act, prohibiting the use of the U.S. military to execute domestic law,” Judge Charles Breyer writes. Amid unrest over Mr. Trump’s deportation efforts, the President called in the National Guard to protect federal assets. But the judge says troops actively assisted law enforcement, such as doing traffic control for a raid on a cannabis farm 80 miles from downtown L.A.

    Judge Breyer orders the executive branch to cease and desist, while saying that the 300 National Guard still in L.A. can stay there, and they can “continue to protect federal property in a manner consistent with the Posse Comitatus Act.” He stayed his ruling until next week, giving Mr. Trump a chance to appeal, but it’s a moment for the White House to reflect before it moves on Chicago, or anywhere else.

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    Mr. Trump seems genuinely appalled at the violence in America’s big cities, and give him credit for jolting the public out of complacency. In Chicago Mayor Johnson says crime is down some 30%, but it’s still one of America’s most crime-ridden cities, especially in poor neighborhoods. Eight were killed last weekend alone. In 2024 there were 573 murders, the most in the country for the 13th year in a row.

    This is a failure of Democratic big-city governance, and Mr. Trump is showing in Washington, D.C., that the streets can be made safer if political leaders have the will. The President has deployed federal officers and the D.C. National Guard, and now carjackings are down 87% from a year ago, Mayor Muriel Bowser said last week. She opposes masked immigration agents and troops from other states, but “we greatly appreciate the surge of officers.”

    Yet Washington is a federal district where Mr. Trump can use executive action to take control of the local police department. His options in Chicago are fewer, since the President lacks the power to boss around state and local police. Last week Mayor Johnson signed an order that says Chicago cops can’t be assigned to joint patrols or arrest operations “alongside federal law enforcement, or military personnel or National Guard units engaging in civil immigration enforcement.”

    What’s Mr. Trump’s plan for Chicago? Good question. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Sunday the Administration intends to expand immigration enforcement in the city, and that’s a legitimate federal power. Messrs. Johnson and Pritzker don’t have to like it, but the more inflammatory their denunciations, the likelier to encourage unrest. Already Mr. Johnson is warning in hyperbolic fashion about “grandmothers thrown into the back of unmarked vans” and “tanks in our streets.”

    If protests in Chicago get violent, Mr. Trump might again say he needs the National Guard to protect federal agents or buildings. But that’s a limited mission, not the kind of street cleanup of violent neighborhoods that Mr. Trump keeps promising. If he tries to use troops for that job, he’s asking for another federal ruling that he’s breaking the Posse Comitatus law. He can invoke the Insurrection Act to call in troops to restore public order, but that should be a resort to quell riots.

    Most Americans want cops on the beat, not soldiers in the streets. Governors sometimes deploy their own National Guard units to back up law enforcement, as when New York Gov. Kathy Hochul sent troops into the subways last year, but that’s state action and can be exempt from Posse Comitatus. For Mr. Trump to declare an insurrection to send in federal troops over the objections of an elected Governor would be a risky escalation.

    Chicago’s chronic crime problem belongs to Mr. Pritzker and Mr. Johnson, the country’s worst mayor. Mr. Trump can’t duplicate there or elsewhere what he’s doing in D.C., because there’s no place in America that is like the nation’s federal capital.

    But if Mr. Trump’s anticrime push makes D.C. safer for good, the President will be able to say he showed residents in America’s big cities that they don’t have to put up with the daily violence and mayhem that’s tolerated by their failing political class.

    Appeared in the September 3, 2025, print edition as 'Trump, Troops and the Mayhem in Chicago'.

     
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    LOL at Pritzker... who tries to say crime is a bigger problem in red states... yeah, the blue urban areas of red states. Everyone knows its the same people committing the crimes in the urban areas everywhere -- we all know who does it. And in 95% of those cities, they are run by Democrat mayors, Democrat judges, Democrat head of police, etc. And in 95% of those cities, the crime is committed by groups that overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Republicans are required to show Democrats how to fix this problem. It's gone on too long and the country has paid too high of a price for Democrat incompetence --- for decades upon decades. The good news is that Trump has a license and resources to fix the problem -- and is fixing it.


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    Dear Leader will be happy to know that I am vigorously addressing the P under my purview.

    Thank you for your attention to this important matter!
     
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