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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. kokozo

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    They can stay where they are, but then shouldn't they have to give citizenship to people who were already there?
     
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    See the thing about that is you literally made that up. There's no evidence of this. There's been investigations and findings don't support anything you're claiming. Congrats on the fell for it again award.



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  3. lionaire

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    "Journalists in Gaza are affiliated with Hamas, they're staging/faking events"

    Ok so let international media outlets in Gaza so they can do the reporting instead

    "No"
     
  4. lionaire

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    Hey remember in 2021 when the occupation bombed the building that the Associated Press was operating out of in Gaza for 15+ years? They did so under the false pretense that Hamas was utilizing the building. Any evidence of these claims? Of course not, such thing is not necessary for their naive base of supporters.
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-m...ian-conflict-fe452147166f55ba5a9d32e6ba8b53d7
     
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    Author of this article, Barak-Corren was born and raised in Haifa . She served in the IDF as an intelligence officer. You're gonna trust a member of the israeli terrorist army?
     
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    I mean, all they know about the people withholding them within the walls of Gaza is that they killed their family members and friends, destroyed their homes and control all parts of their livelihood. Do you seriously expect their perspective to be any different?

    Meanwhile, the children of the occupiers:




     
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    That's so disturbing indoctrinating kids that way. Did they learn nothing from the past, when it was the Germans indoctrinating their youth to feel this way about Jewish children?
     
  10. lionaire

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    abuse victims becoming the abusers, a tale as old as time.
     
  11. Nook

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    Really?

    1. This isn't WWII, it isn't remotely a world war.
    2. Israel is the one that is being accused of committing a genocide
    3. Israel is the one pursuing an expansionist policy.
    4. Israel is the one that 80 years ago decided that the people that had been in the region for 1000 years needed to leave.
     
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    Why? Because many of them view Palestinians as trouble, as trash and believe that they are just violent troublemakers or incorrigible. They view the Israeli's as modern, safe and would not be violent if not for the Palestinians. They also look at terrorism from Muslims and view it as based on religion and culture, and fail to realize that the Middle East is massive and not the same everywhere.

    We have seen this before - we have seen Muslim countries historically conqueror nations they felt were inferior and spread their civilization. We have seen the West and Christianity do it many times as well. It has happened in Turkey with Muslims doing it - it has happened in American with European Christians doing it - in Africa etc.

    It is the classic "civilized" versus "savage" trope.
     
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    Whether they should or shouldn't is irrelevant - they will not do it, because the Jews would be a voting minority by number and the Palestinians would vote to kick the Jews out in elections.
     
  14. kokozo

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    Yes, it's the same reason whites in SA wanted to keep apartheid.

    Also in the same sense, anything other than "will USA continue supporting Israel?" is irrelevant for now. But I think USA as the only superpower won't last another 20/30 years - maybe the Chinese overlords bring some change in that area.
     
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    We may see a change in US policy, but Israel is already armed to the teeth and at this point if they don't get weapons from the USA - they will get them from somewhere else.

    As for China - they are the odds on favorite to challenge the USA's unfettered control of global policy, but I am not even sure that they will be a superpower from an influencial perspective, thirty years is a long time and China has lot of internal issues that are being swept under the rug.

    Who knows.
     
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    zionists dont respect international law, what makes you think they would comply with copyright law lol. get f*cked idiots.
     
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    America supplies 80% of their arms. It's not as simple as finding a new vendor. The next largest supplier is Germany who also relies on America. An arms embargo would effectively mark the end of the zionist state.

    BTW most Americans support an arms embargo.
     
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    without the simp-like political support from the USA - israel would get sanctioned to the oblivion in an instant and have to stop the ethnic cleansing campaign eventually - also just like the apartheid SA.
     
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    Israel has received so many weapons from the USA and is so well established that they could find alternative suppliers of weapons. There are always actors willing to turn a profit.

    The state of Israel isn't going anywhere, after the failed Yom Kippur invasion failed in the 1970's, Israel has gone from on the defensive to being expansive, larely with help from the USA and at that time other parts of the West. Now they are very entrenched and it is highly inevitable that Israel is going to turn the Gaza Strip into high end real estate and the Palestinians in the West Bank will be eventually killed or pushed out.
     

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